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maybe try using brave instead, just for ... haha well i have brave on my phone to sync it to my pc, means all my stuff is automatically backed up

Waterfox

Forked from Firefox, but they didn't go to the dark side.

I also use Brave

I usually have so many tabs open at a time that I have to use multiple browsers. When you start approaching 100 tabs, they don't usually work well.

That is so IT of you.

I also try to do some browser isolation, so I only do any google stuff on MS edge.

brave has tab groups now, and vertical tabs

also, firefox IS the dark side man

That is why I now use waterfox instead of firefox.

i had enough of mozilla when i was browsing nostr and people pasted widevine DRM using spotify links that blocked me from screenshotting my browser

instead i would get some random repeating sequence of colours instead of my own browser

and it would affect other tabs as well, it blocked me taking screenshots of my whole screen

this does not happen when you disable it. fine

but when you disable it, every time one of these preview links appears in your current app there is a snackbar that begs you to enable DRM

this is universal, librefox, firefox, and i'm sure all of them do this

the fact that you never heard of this before is because you never listened to someone who actually knows what is going on and got burned bad wasting time and frankly, nagging me to re-enable DRM is just beyond the pale

when i disable DRM video decoding on brave, or even chcrome, it never nags me

so, idk, you can make your own judgement but i'm completely enraged by this behaviour and the waffling apologies i hear from all sorts, and by this i include people like laser and darthcoin who both promote this shitty mozilla shit

and you are old enough to remember, surely, who mozilla is

yeah, netscape

and if you remember that shit, they dominated the internet and enshittified it really badly for most of the first decade of this century

I don't use firefox. I use waterfox, which is a fork that doesn't have the mozilla nonsense.

Try Brave. Best general use browser there is.

I use that, too. In reality, I use Brave more than waterfox, but I was recommending waterfox as a firefox replacement. I have up to 100 tabs open on Brave, so I do other things on Waterfox. Brave starts getting unhappy when I go over 100 tabs and it becomes hard for me to find the tab I want.

Sounds like we share bad habits 🤣

brave has tab groups now, so you can organise those things a lot more cleanly as well, and firefox has still not implemented this feature, so, i understand what you mean but i have over 100 tabs tied to several different browser tab groups now and i don't get problems with that

i will just say that i'm not sure how much memory you need, maybe it is more, but 16gb of memory should be enough to run brave nicely on a linux installation

also, brave now has a feature to limit resource usage of tabs more effectively, i forget what it is because i enabled it and never get asked anymore and performance is definitely improved generally

some web apps are abhorrently excessively resource users tho, it's better to find alternatives to them anyway

for my money, if a tab is using more than 400mb (and brave also reports this in a tooltip on each tab) it's probably rubbish

Do I have to open a tab inside the group? I was able to create a group from one tab, but can't figure out how to add other open tabs to the same group. I can only find creating a new group and adding one existing tab to it.

Never mind. I just figured it out.

awesome! yeah, it's really cool eh?

a few weird bits to how to use it, like moving tabs by drag and drop is a bit un-intuitive, but it helps keep my tabs in order

ah yeah, so, the thing to improve performance is in the "system" menu of the settings, under "performance" and "memory saver"

i haven't actually had to use it because my pc has 64gb memory and rarely uses more than 20gb most of the time but for 8 or 16gb machines i can imagine it helps a lot, also you can whitelist apps to be able to run in the background, like email and such

i've been using brave for about 4 years in a large part because of its sync system, which only exposes you to brave's servers to be an intermediary for your browser instances to synchronise configurations, using a key that only lives on your own devices, and is encrypted by this and they identify each other through the public key that is derived from it

it is faster than firefox, it doesn't nag you to enable DRM widevine DRM, and you can basically disable all of the shitcoin features of brave without nagging you either, though they are all enabled by default.

it has saved my bacon several times from losing my configurations, bookmarks and i don't really use the password manager that goes with it, though that is convenient too, just one instance on my mobile and one on my desktop and i never lose my web browser configs, and by that i mean all of the extensions are also synced up, and importantly, the 2fa that a lot of sites require, this is also synced, and you just have to have two instances, it can be just two computers, but the phone and desktop/laptop setup is very handy

mozilla foundation is a spook funded company, and their codebase is less well written than google's chrome browser engine, to the point, that the majority of apps that use browser engines are built on chrome engine

i don't like google, but it's so good even microsoft quit wasting their money maintaining internet explorer and now just use chrome engine as well

linux and mozilla have started to become a really big problem for privacy and stability... ever since linux kernel version 6 it's gotten steadily more inconsistent at supporting hardware, and mozilla browser is creepy, i mean really creepy, just open up a new instance of it on a new login and tell me what you think about their bleating declarations of caring about your privacy

while they nag you to use DRM, which essentially hands over full control of your browser engine to untrustworthy applications and servers