I think it is a long dispute here. I don't wanna contribute to debate about the efficktemcy and effectiveness of vaccines.

I posted about Katalin Karikó, who, - as I know - was the first who become known about working out a vaccine, and she is Hungarian.

BTW: my brother is world famous biologist (publicates many times in Nature and Science), and he has some deeper knowledge about this, and I discussed about the pandemia with him, and other friends of mine who are professor of medicine. Nobody was against vaccination, nor declined that the Ckvid is exists.

On the other hand I have seen statistics about statistics both side.

About Sweden we have information about there is no natural immunity against the virus and Swedish leaders was wrong about anti-vaccination.

Many of my friends died from complication of Covid. And they was against vaccination. And only one of my vaccinated friends died, all others survived.

And about the immunity: the black death (the pest) claimed the 1/3 of human population worldwide (of course w/o vaccination). But tt was bacteria not virus

There is no human immunity against AIDS too.

So there is no natural human immunity even not formed immunity against all infection caused by virus or bacteria without vaccination. E.g. every human must have vaccinated against blackpox, polio and so on.

BTW: there is about a debate about origin of Covid, e.g. it is an artifical biological weapon, and developed by US or develkped by China. Ot ks all the same, this pandemia was pandemia.

A hundred words have the same ending the original post was not for or against vaccination.

And with the majority of the human people I also respect the Hungarian Katalin Karikó's work against the Covid.

And nobody knows nothing about "what-if" scenarios.

I think there are many good people working toward tenable solutions to infection, disease, and mortality in human populations. I think it’s possible that mRNA technology has the potential to be amazingly effective at fine tuning the effectiveness of vaccine therapy, but also has the potential to tamper with the DNA of of organisms evolving in a dynamic interconnected way, this evolution being a process of such complexity science has only just started to document pieces of the system. The mRNA technology was patented in 1989, Robert Malone, and the pharmaceutical industry has been rabidly promoting the use in humans since then, but couldn’t get approval in spite of regulatory capture, largely because it’s dangerous and every educated person knows it. The pandemic was the perfect curated opportunity to apply this vaccine technology in a widespread way with no adverse reaction liability for the pharmaceutical companies. Not a single dose was sold to anyone but the governments of the world. The doses were distributed under emergency declarations, sidestepping all of the trial requirements for medicines, vaccines, even food. Bottom line, my opinion, COVID-19 emerged through gain of function research on SARS and coronavirus in Wuhan and Ukraine at bioweapons research labs run by the US and others. Maybe the release was accidental, but the research is prohibited anyway so why does it matter? Frankly I think Russia invaded Ukraine primarily to shut down these labs, but other motivations are involved, similarly the application of experimental vaccines on the world population is predatory opportunism by pharmaceutical companies. It could be much more nefarious, it could be contrived, a ploy to reduce world population, concentrate wealth and power, tag most humans with a graphene oxide liquid RFID chip at the blood brain barrier that is absorbent of certain specific RF frequencies effectively serving as an instant kill switch for every vaccinated human. There is so much information out there. Everyone must plot their own course. As for me, I will never receive another vaccine for anything, and while my family has free choice, no one will ever force a vaccine on them while I live. My trust in the medical, research, government, and regulatory agencies is broken completely and it will be a long road to rebuild that trust, a road littered with people punished for corruption and malfeasance.

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