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Interesting theory, and one I don't totally dismiss.

I hard disagree that Kamala would have been better. Hell to the no! I won't even elaborate. Thinking that suggests a bit of TDS to me.

Taking the anti-violence position against trump is convenient right now, as I can't really defend some of the recent aggression (abroad mostly...the at home stuff too I guess, but part of me is glad there's a pushback against the overly welcoming immigration policy). As you can see, I still wrestle with the first principles vs pragmatic side of things. If I really stop and think about things, I lean more toward your views, but I can't fully let go of my practical side either. My defense for fence sitting is kind of a Nash equilibrium argument (recently had this notion/excuse); there is a better state for the world to be in, the one that is more libertarian, but we find ourselves stuck on the current game and one can't necessarily make the first move to take the higher road without losing. This applies more to foreign policy.

Anyway, this is why I don't usually delve into politics. I don't have a very clean position on much, and don't know as much as I should to soapbox like some do. Just an observer mostly

Daniel Wigton 5d ago

There just aren't good sources of truth. I don't like just claiming ignorance, but man are there no good roads out of it. Best I can do is local politics maybe. On the national scale I vote Solidarity Party because my motto is when all roads lead to hell you don't pick the slower path, you turn around and and run the other way.

Ok not really my motto but it makes a nice sound bite and I agree with nostr:nprofile1qqsqzr0se9y0ax44f5kt06jzplaq34tetzvpkm4x36p64flt9hflqkspz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wghxcctwvshsz9nhwden5te0dp5hxapwdehhxarj9ekxzmny9u5gfsqy that they just find 50/50 issues to keep the gravy train rolling. As long as we can keep our half more worried about the crap the other side might pull than the crap our side is pulling then we can do all the shenanigans we want.

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YODL 5d ago

Familiar with the ice cream salesman paradox?

Daniel Wigton 5d ago

No.

Daniel Wigton 5d ago

Interesting and awful.

Bill Cypher 5d ago

Pretty good summary.

Daniel Wigton 5d ago

Are there branches of game theory that look ways of making things more optimal for consumers? For instance if the location of the crowd was unstable it might change the calculus for the vendors. Maybe we just need built-in perturbations to keep equilibrium points from being to predictable.

YODL 5d ago

People acting less predictably...might be something there.

There is a concept of mixed strategy equalibria, to account for games that have probability distributions rather than fixed states each turn.

More parties than two comes with its own issues as well.

Don't know more about it than that

YODL 5d ago

There's a beach, and two ice cream vendors. People will walk to the nearest one and give their business to that one. The salesman can position anywhere they like, yet the equilibrium outcome is for them to be side by side in the middle.

Often cited as why candidates campaign in the middle and close together in a two party election.

Not entirely relevant, but somewhat

YODL 5d ago

Relevance is related to your 50/50 comment I guess.

Good points made too. Think the solution is a ground up sort of thing. Dare I say religion?! Haha, just pandering.

But for example, I'm inspired by the type of stuff max hillebrand writes, and maybe as more and more individuals move that way, we knock ourselves out of this local equilibrium state (the ugly politics).

Daniel Wigton 5d ago

Yup, my optimal strategy is to just tell as many people as I can that I vote third party. It gives them licence. If people hear it enough from different corners they will begin to believe that it can move the needle.

Daniel Wigton 5d ago

Ok. I am moving to a coast where I will set up ice cream stands with a delivery service and an app. The runners will stop periodically to stamp qr codes for the app in the sand. I'm putting everyone out of business.