The big benefit to Europe is the money spent on social programs that would have otherwise been spent on defense.

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Didn’t know you’re such a fan of the welfare state.

Like I said above I wish it wasn’t so.

i think europeans are unable to comprehend that people are able to discuss the realities of what is happening and that is separate from saying that you support or oppose the thing lol

I think Americans are unable to comprehend that Europeans are not a single country.

europe is irrelevant

So will be the American empire when it inevitably collapses.

yup

You said there are benefits and the welfare system is among them.