Nostr Web Client

So according to the laws being implemented in December here in #australia

If an online service or platform wants to be exempted from the age restrictions and digital id requirements they must respond in writing explaining why they should be exempted.

With fines of up to 49.5 million AU$ for non compliance.

#asknostr

How long does everyone expect it'll take for nostr clients to get removed from the Australian app/play stores?

Are any nostr clients intending on implementing digital id and biometric scans to comply ?

Will they actually be able to fine companies or individuals responsible for nostr clients?

Peace K 🪙 3mo ago

Nostr clients don't store any data, so technically they are not a service and are exempt from this law.

Nostr relays have no capability to show the information, they are more like a glorified google drive, and therefore are exempt from this law.

I am no lawyer and why I wrote above may well be bullshit. But I think that because of it's unique architecture, Nostr will fly free.

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Scoundrel 3mo ago

Nostr relays show the information to nostr clients. Normal web servers are glorified Google drive as well, storing and retrieving web pages, and yet this law would be pointless if it didn't apply to them.

Access to Nostr will always be possible to affect with legislation. Nostr has no special ability to protect itself in that particular respect.

Liberty Farmer 3mo ago

Chrome is not part of the regulation, providers and services are. Hence a nostr client would not be, however a relay could potentially be.

Scoundrel 3mo ago

If we are talking about a desktop client then I agree with you. However I have heard Nostr users claim that web clients also aren't subject to content regulations, but I don't think I buy that. I think websites are legally responsible for the content that they make available through embedding it in their web page.

Yes, TECHNICALLY the code that requests notes is Javascript that's being run in the user's browser, not on the Nostr web client's server, (at least that's the case for many Nostr web clients) and TECHNICALLY the notes are being sent directly to the client's IP address rather than to the Nostr web client's server IP. (Again, I'm talking about many Nostr web clients.)

However, the Nostr web clients are still the ones connecting users to relays and providing their browsers with the means to interpret that connection. And they are doing it all without verifying the age of the user. If the state has a problem with a website giving minors access to porn, they probably don't care much whether that porn is stored on the website's own server or someone else's. They don't care about HOW the website is giving minors access to porn, they only care THAT the website is granting minors access and that the URL at the top of the screen says you are on the same website.