uh, ok...

whats it gonna take for this dream to shatter so we can get work preserving an actual society for the children because while you're conjuring utopias in your mind , the places wherein your preferred modality might have been possible are being invaded at a harrowing rate and we got little while girls being raped and gutted by said invaders...

in three years the major cities in america will be owned by MS-13...

wut then with libertarianism?

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Libertarianism is NOT about imaginary societal ideals that can never be attained. It is about imaginary society ideals that have already been attained and can be applied to right here and right now. The ends ARE the means. I am not a Marxist utopian. I do not pretend that we need to convince some giant cohort of the population to have a revolution to seize control of the government, peacefully by voting or otherwise, to make liberty reign ad desgroy the state or let it "whither away." I am not a utopian.

The ends I describe are not some lofty goal. I practice it every fucking day. It is called be humble, be kind, don't be arrogant, have discussions, learn about reality, recognize your own error. When you start to believe that you can work toward a peaceful society by doing ANYTHING other than peaceful action, stopping to assess and understand stuff, or retribution to stop an aggressor, then you have become a utopian. A fool. A nincompoop.