Right, but maybe not (yet) in monetary terms. Things tend to boom, when intrinsic motivation is the main driver, not profits. And as long as this is the case, I think you're right.

But as soon as big, riba-infested, capital moves in, we have a problem.

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I have a belief on ppl to do the right thing in a fair marketplace. That’s why I don’t care about riba-centric capital.