It's nostr:npub14c7ksq2wln0s9nftjlr0wv2vqpg5xzvw7jezl3whczc0ff2y97eqerl5l2 podcast. One of the OG bands in #V4V music.

https://fountain.fm/show/RgrxW3Hu1M8q0D87dIKE

I'm pretty sure their podcast "into the doerfel-verse(spelled Doerfel way wrong before) has been around since like 2023 and they mighta coined the phrase "valueverse" with Adam Curry. Hence why I thought maybe it was a Doerfelverse thing