Right, if only we had voted for Kamala. Or maybe if we had all voted for another rando libertarian.
Get real. You can be critical of Trump while also understanding he was the best choice in a two person race and hoping that he can be successful. Mindlessly cheering for or against one politician just because of how you cast a ballot on election day is crazy.
The process itself doesn't work but that's a separate story. You can acknowledge that and still deal with reality.
Voting is useless, if you do it, you are only an accomplice of statism.
That's too harsh to people with mental illness, don't you think?!
We're currently subjects of it either way. If there can be no change from the inside (I believe there can be some) we have to get more serious about change from the outside. The trajectory isn't good.
It really is depressing to see anarchists saying stuff like this. They know its not true but their sinissism gets the best of them. Even if you think voting is useless to follow that up with a claim that those who vote are an accomplice to staitism is absolutely ridiculous.
The sheer ignorance to the actual plight people are placed under by statism that that type of statement portrays is hard for me to comprehend. Its nothing but callousness.
Voting is useless and if you vote you are complicit in statism.
I advise you to read Samuel Edward Konkin III and I also advise you to study the end of the Soviet era.
It is depressing that there are still people who think that voting is useful.
As someone said:
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
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Perhaps you should read Lysander Spooner or even Rothbard. Neither of whom considered voting to be complicit in statism. Voting can't even considered to be purely voluntary.
But the strategy of calling people trying to improve their situation in any way they can think of as complicit in the system that has placed them in such a situation is nothing but off putting and callous. And wrong, on top of that.
You can debate about whether its useless or not. I find the blanket statement that its useless is hard to defend given you can't account for every situation. Voting may be useless in some or even most situations. But not all. And if you don't live in the US you haven't seen the cultural shift that vote has caused. Its not all great but its more positive than I've ever witnessed in terms of the prospects for liberty. Republicans are actually talking about ending the income tax now. That would be unheard of just 2 years ago.
But the berating people for voting for the obvious better choice in an election that could have gone either way on a platform mostly of libertarians and anarchists is crazy to me. Do you not think an anarchist or libertarian that voted for trump didn't realize he would do stupid shit?
If voting is useless howcome Trump won, after they tried to kill him, put his supporters in jail, tried to bankrupt him, deplatformed censored and silenced him, and ran hit piece after hit piece in the mainstream mierda?
DEI and CRT are going away because Trump won, Ross was pardoned because Trump won, the border is magically safe (wasn't so hard after all it seems) in under two weeks because Trump won, and Trump won because enough people didn't have the same defeatist attitude you're displaying and did something to change the status quo (voting).
You may say you prefer a system without a State, and fair enough, but that is not the reality now.
Since THAT is the reality, you can use your vote to steer the system in a direction you find more productive. Or you can waste it and do nothing, but then don't complain things keep getting worse.
There's a lot of gray between voting is useless and only a politician will save us. Don't be so monochromatic :)
In the end in politics everything is cosmetic, Trump governs because they let him govern and the parameter you have to follow is taxes, after Trump the average Joe will pay more or less taxes? There is no more.
Voting is useless.
You're seeing black and white. Already it is a safer country and a lot of the leftist bullshit is being openly ridiculed and dismantled. There's been a lot more good news than bad and it's only been a few weeks.
It's like you want everything to be perfect or nothing is worth it. Stop eating those black pills for breakfast, man.
You can't tell me you think it's just as good or just as bad that Trump won instead of Kamala.
Again, it's not black or white. Voting isn't useless and Trump isn't the holy saviour, there is a lot between those two extremes.
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You are literally vowing to be governed by others
Wow really? I haven't heard that idea before.
Like I said, get real. I understand what you're saying. Go look at some of my old notes from the past 2+ years. I agree with your perspective 95% of the time.
But you really need to get real and view things how they are. You can hide from being governed by others all you want, that won't change the fact that their rules, regulations, wars, taxes, and spending affects your life.
If you're not willing to try to change things from the inside you better be prepared to change them from the outside. You can also try both without it being some huge moral conflict.
