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Why do you think Venus is a better candidate for terraforming?

Almost exactly the same mass as earth, plus there's more energy to work with, since its closer to the sun. I'd rather start with too much than too little.

Also, there's a nice feature where the upper atmosphere has the same temperature and pressure as earth at sea level. Not enough oxygen, but colonists living on blimps would be much much much more comfortable than on Mars because they'd just need an oxygen mask to be "outside" (on an unpressurized blimp). We could do this right now... Mars needs 100x more steps and planning to put people on it.

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 8mo ago

IMO the whole concept of terraforming is silly

planets can be lived on when they have a sufficient magnetic field, and at that size there is almost always oxygen and same air pressure and all the things

it's my opinion that asteroids eventually accumulate mass and become moons, and then accumulate mass and become planets, then grow through to the jupiter phase and then once they accumulate enough mass, the pressure and massive magnetic fields ignite plasma and they become stars, and the entire nonsense about black holes, they are not dead stars, they are just so big that light can't escape, and inside they are accumulating more and more mass

idk why anyone thinks that it can be anything else in light of einstein's formula, sure, inside the event horizon time is so slow that light is almost not in motion, but anyway

much more useful thoughts to have are about how you can make a spacecraft that you can actually live in full time without getting cancer, the key would have to be a superconductive magnetic field generator arrayed around the surface of the ship that deflects radiation and plasma

and you also need high bandwidth entanglement communications, how do you do that while also shielding yourself from most radiation, i guess it has to also include some kind of channel anyway that you safely allow radiation and high energy particles to pass through

living on these other planets is going to be the same problem, their magnetic field is induced and weak, radiation on mars and venus are going to be very high and without that shielding forget it

once you have the energy and the magnetic deflection technology it doesn't matter where you are, you can just fling out residential craft and then also travel in them

you have to find a habitable planet, you can't make a planet habitable without a massive amount of matter added to it so it is heavy enough to have a permanent, strong magnetic field

Marakesh 𓅦 8mo ago

And you think Elon Musk doesn't know this? 😄

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 8mo ago

i'm not aware of him doing research into gravity control or antimatter energy generators

Comte de Sats Germain 8mo ago

There's even more problems than those... Endless problems. But we can't just sit on earth and wait for aliens to come and extinctify us - we gotta build! People will invent some stuff, then it'll happen. Eventually we'll terraform all of the planets, even the ones so far out the sun just looks like another star. We'll even terraform Jupiter, in a sense, by putting a shitload of geostationary satellites in orbit, so you can walk around at earth gravity. No idea how to handle the crazy radiation from Jupiter's magnetic field, but we'll figure it out.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 8mo ago

i think that surviving the oncoming pole shift disaster is far more important than trying to get out to space and i believe that it's possible our ancestors will fulfill their promise and come and help us out. but at the same time, they may not, and achieving the level of recovery that will be required to be able to even just have things like cars again will probably take at least 100 years or more, if we are without help.

if we are all alone in facing this, then only a very few of us will survive and it will take a long time for us to even get back to steam age.