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Agree up to "the whole planet has got a lot greener because of 150 years of carbon fuel use"

Gonna have to pull you up short there. :)

Higher CO2 doesn't benefit all plants, which creates unpredictability. We can adapt, but quick changes in nature translate to dodgier food supply chains.

CO2 may have greened parts of the planet but the same carbon fuels are powering the destruction of green land back to bare soil. I think man has degraded something like 5 out of 8 billion hectares during its tenure, creating big trouble for the whole food chain.

Oil industry additives may have fuelled a green revolution but after it first raised productivity it then provoked decreased soil productivity, forcing farmers to use ever more inputs to maintain production. That foobar has been masked by fiat sleight of hand.

Your statement is also skimping over the minor issues on the other side of mega carbon fuel use - unbridled pollution. Pollution is gonna kill us off long before any climate related issue.

(This is the danger of current climate crisis policies, diverting the publics gaze away from whats killing us now, to focusing on green-building our way out of a climate "crisis". The causes of hat crisis are so beyond our understanding, that manipulation games can be played for ever.)

Oil pollution and chemical loads are undoing any greening benefits from CO2 creation. Our can-do mindset built on carbon fuel-powered industry has left our species as sick as parrots, infertile, autistic, asthmatic, yadda yadda.

Humankind has also surrounded itself in flammable materials made from oil. One spark and poufffff.

If we can just keep it simple, respect the carbon cycle, the hydrological cycle, the bi-cycle, and understand that homo sapiens has flourished because of a relatively predictable natural environment, unchanged for thousands of years, we will be fine. But most don't want to hear it.

When kids in cities don't even know where milk comes from or what cycle the moon is in tonight, the cord joining billions to nature has been cut...

Peace.

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

CO2 is not a problem, at all

crop yields have continued to go up for the last 100 years mainly due to it

debasement of currency, poisoning of soil and filling our houses and bodies with plastic are all provably negative things and they are based on debasement at the base

if we were still using primarily glass containers for stuff and metal and reusing stuff more, building objects and tools to actually last, instead of milking the money spigot, we still would need all that energy to manufacture those things, but our quality of life would be better, because we wouldn't be dying of cancer and heart disease due to the industrial processed food, i mean, just in the last 40 years the stuff you can buy at the supermarket has rapidly turned into shit because they have to lower the production cost because of the constant pressure of inflation on costs of living versus the slow movement of wages upward, being made worse by politicians

so they use all this cheap garbage shit, build stuff that breaks in a year

what does this have to do with carbon dioxide?

very little

they are actually lowering the enerrgy cost and measurably degrading the quality of everything they are producing, deliberately, in order to kill people without them realising it

nothing to do with CO2 and the effect of increased CO2 on plants is unquestionably positive and thousands of ice core samples from glaciers and polar ice prove that the CO2 levels have been declining for thousands of years, likely this related to several large catastrophic events that occurred about 12000 years ago, and happen on that cycle, roughly, involving a micro-nova, an extremely large solar explosion that throws so much material out, half burns the planet, radiates it with UV and x and gamma rays, and then out of this material, rocks form and then they hammer all the planets, there is airbursts, and then on top of all that, there are these special rare types of lightning that completely destroy a piece of land with an electrical discharge the size of which is comparable to dozens of nuclear weapons being detonated

such an event is coming in the next decades and the only thing that is going to help us survive is using the energy we have available to prepare for it

but the people in charge don't care, they would love it if 95% of teh population dies, so long as they are the ones with all the guns and gold

the same people who are profiting right now from all this poisoning you speak of

Olive Grove Eggs 1y ago

We agree on most points but you are missing my basic point - crop yields are going up because we are consuming / inputting more oil related products.

More oil, more CO2 do shift the agricultural production needle, but they are not the magic wand being pumped by energy afvocates.

There is no cause for celebration about improved yields when that is predicated on less variety, less food security, more corporate control.

In agriculture, systems using oil based fertiliser spike before turning inefficient with provably diminishing returns, which requires ever more npk fertilisers per unit, and a case/driver for more oil use. Shit compounded by fiat.

Etc etc

Any way, it's a good day to charge my batteries built with products mined by kids in the Congo. Whatever it takes to make my olive and almond wood pile look tidy :)

Cheers Btw as a user, what's the best way for me to help to keep your realy relay project sustainable?