more practical - if I'm able to send 100 euros instantly to another person through fiat third parties, Bitcoin must do that. Lightning fixes this to some extent

feeless, or close to it - if I'm able to send 100 euros to someone with 0 fees associated, Bitcoin must do that. in this case it's acceptable if the fees are sub-cents, as they usually are in Lightning

right now, the Bitcoin network is slower and more expensive than traditional fiat institutions

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Can you send 100 euros instantly via fiat third parties so that there is final settlement and the transaction can’t be reversed?

no, I cannot

of course there are a lot of points in which Bitcoin is superior, I'm in no way defending the fiat system

just mentioning the things that ordinary users will notice. unfortunately, the ordinary user doesn't care about non-reversibility

Did the people in Canada who got their bank accounts frozen for being linked to the trucker rally care that they couldn’t send transactions and access their funds? Non-reversibility means censorship resistant. It doesn’t matter to the ordinary user until it does.

Can you send 100 euros instantly via fiat third parties to someone on the other side of the world and achieve final settlement of the transaction that can’t be blocked or reversed?

Can you send 100 euros instantly via fiat third parties when one person only has Venmo and other only has CashApp?

not from the US, never used those apps

in Europe we all have MBWay (at least that's the only app I ever used and everyone has it)

we can send euros instantly to each other, with 0 fees

“Sending” instantly is different from “settled” instantly. The funds might have been sent but can be reversed up to 180 days later. Bitcoin transaction is final in 6 blocks or less. Even when fees are high now, you are still paying less than $2 for final settlement.

fees are proportional to the number of bytes your transaction has

You are comparing apples to oranges, a centralized payments network to a base layer decentralized settlement network.

I know I am

but to an average person, with no knowledge of how fiat works or what is bitcoin, these will be their first concerns

The whole point of Bitcoin is not to be compared with fiat system or to be faster and cheaper.

Is to FUCK THE BANKS AND GOVS.

This is what few understand.

You want to live a slave life, stay the fuck in the fiat world.

You want freedom, use Bitcoin.

Otherwise, STFU with bullshit like "can I send 100 euros..."

if Bitcoin is ever to replace the fiat system, it must be compared against it

a regular, dumb user will not change its habits if it means lowering the quality of the service

for people that understand that a decentralized system is superior, that comparison is easily done. for someone who doesn't even understand how fiat works, it is not

I'm not advocating for fiat. I'm defending the point of view of a regular person

Maybe people will never have to use bitcoin directly.

Maybe one day bitcoin will just became the hard money to evaluate other money like gold before.

So Gov can’t print money and hide it like today.

interesting point

set up a LNURL so that people can zap you ⚡