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Who said self-custodial Lightning is not viable?

Viable for what purpose in particular?

“The only hope” is a bit of a general/sweeping statement, which I tend to try and avoid. (I still make such statements, of course).

But in general, at least right now — assuming we’re referring to the goal of Bitcoin sovereignty for a global population (which I think is usually the underlying question here) — I’m of the mind that we don’t have the “solution” yet, if there is to be one primary, all-encompassing solution, which also may not be the case.

But Lightning, ARK, eCash, sidechains - it’s all pretty cool and interesting and new and cutting edge. Perhaps none of them are “the” solution. If there is *one* solution, it probably hasn’t been invented yet!

And just like the way that Bitcoin was discovered/created after decades of experimentation with other projects that solved different parts of the problem, I would expect that bringing self-custody sats to the masses will require the synthesis of various projects into something that checks all the boxes.

Also worth noting: Bitcoin successfully dis-intermediates central banks, and offers global citizens a currency with a monetary policy that can’t be fucked with by those banks or governments.

That is a HUGE gift to humanity.

If (and when) an era of digital free banking, using eCash or Lightning or something new, is then built on top of a Bitcoin standard, it will be a massive improvement to the lives of all people. The “best” banks can publish verifiable proof-of-reserve. Or they can offer a transparent, fuckery-free fractional reserve model to those clients who wish to take on a bit more risk, in exchange for some interest (rewards), while other citizens will choose a simple and transparent custody model where they pay a small amount of fees (instead of being paid interest) to have a responsible third party protect their wealth. Humans - many humans - want this, and always will. The market will deliver it.

And for those of us who *don’t* want to rely on any third party for this service? Well, now, we finally have the tools and the means to do it the way we want to.

Freedom = (choice x privacy x autonomy) + confidence that the other factors will not be encroached upon

Or something like that.

You got me thinking 😁🫂🤝🤙🫡

> Bitcoin successfully dis-intermediates central banks, and offers global citizens a currency with a monetary policy that can’t be fucked with by those banks or governments.

Assuming that bitcoiners don’t compromise with scaling solutions that nullify this benefit.

Drivechains allow for the kind of experimentation that you describe. I’m not even sure that there is one solution. Probably many for many use cases. The flexibility is needed. But the point is that you shouldn’t ever lose that core trait of dealing with real bitcoin.

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