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Hawk, imagine you are coming to Castaneda and telling him, hey dude, your materials are similar to a, b, c, I heard similar stuff from others. Would he care about that? No. His job was to deliver his teachings in his own unique way. That's it. People who read his books draw their own conclusions, get inspired, learn, maybe tell others about those materials.

My job was to deliver our unique materials in my own unique way. That's it. If you are interested, you are welcome to dive in. If you are not, that's fine. I'm not here to prove you wrong or debate teachings of others. It's not my thing.

RedTailHawk 11mo ago

The paragraph quoted below was a slap in the face.

"Unless you are using Spelling to perform a magical act, ie you use your voice as an instrument, it doesn't really matter how you spell it in writing. I use Magick in writing to distinguish it from party tricks as you recognized, but that's about it. I don't place much emphasis on it. In the end, if it works, it doesn't really matter how it's called."

You basically said "Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about so I'm going to declare that what you just said doesn't matter."

You fired a shot by addressing my statement on that subject in that way.

A receptive person would say "Oh, that's interesting. I've never heard that before. What's your argument for holding that position?"

That's why you started feeling some heat in my responses. You offered a premature dismissal rooted in ignorance.

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Algis 11mo ago

Hawk, you keep pushing it. You assumed to know what the content of our Seminar is, without watching it. You thought it's similar to something else, it's like this thing or like that other thing.

I pointed out to you that it's NOT. Twice.

It's a unique content, not found in other places. You can't know that, since you did not watch it.

If you watch it and then compare it to something else, that's fine.

If you want to compare it to something else and debate that something else while ASSUMING to know what we are presenting in our seminar, then I'm not interested in that.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who share your interests. Go debate them.

RedTailHawk 11mo ago

No, I did not assume the content of your course.

You described the content of the course using the words "lucid dreaming".

Lucid dreaming is perhaps the largest aspect of Nagualism. The Nagual and the Tonal switch places when we switch from sleep to wake and the key to lucid dreaming in the Nagual tradition is to merge the Tonal with the Nagual. Lucid dreaming is inextricably baked into the name of the tradition itself.

For that reason, I said that what you are doing is "akin" to Nagualism. Akin simply means related, and they are related via their focus on lucid dreaming.

I think the most obvious problem here is your inability to quote me properly. You keep putting words in my mouth I did not say, which is dumb because it's really easy to read my words and then not change them when making accusations. Do you need a Quotation 101 course to figure this out?

When you misquote someone and then attack that misquotation, that's called a "Strawman" logical fallacy. If you build a strawman that looks like me and then beat the fuck out of it, that doesn't mean you've beaten me in a fight. Do you get it?

Also, yet again, you dodge the points I make and move the goalposts, another logical fallacy. I pointed out how you were being a jackass with respect to the spelling of magick/medjaic topic in my last post. Your reply did not address that at all. You abandoned that point because you realize I'm right and you were being an asshole, so instead of acting with humility and admitting you handled that poorly, you're engaging in logically fallacious arguments and making yourself look like a total ass.

Stop it.

You really have a lot of work left to do before you teach anyone anything.