Oh yeah for sure. He really didn't touch on the non monetary aspects (most people who don't like v4v only focus on the monetary i think).

These v4v "haters" are not wrong in a sense. They just i think don't understand how radical the model is.

The more v4v starts to slip towards "i make something you pay me" it really does get distorted and then people are upset when they look at their wallet.

So, in this sense, I empathize with them. They thought v4v would be a better PayPal and they were misled or misunderstood and now they feel hurt.