I don't know what our area would be in the US system. We are technically Mediterranean in climate here in South Australia, but we are in the hills, we seem to have an alpine climate in winter and very hot summers. I'll try to start them indoors this year.
Wine grows all around me, i am in the “banana belt of Canada, also they love to climb
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We have lots of vineyards here also, it's probably me or the soil, taking a while to build it up from sand and rock.
We use the no dig method, everything starts in compost
