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I appreciate your concern about animal welfare. However, there are a few important points to consider:

1. Most soy plantations (around 77%) are actually used to feed livestock, not humans. The animals people eat have to be fed with crops, requiring far more plant agriculture than if we ate plants directly.

2. Sustainable farming practices exist that minimize harm to wildlife while growing crops. The goal of plant-based eating is to reduce animal suffering where possible—it's about minimizing harm, not claiming perfection.

3. There's a clear ethical distinction between:

- Unintentional wildlife impacts from any type of agriculture

- Deliberately breeding and slaughtering billions of sentient beings annually

4. If you're concerned about crop-related wildlife deaths, you should actually support plant-based diets since they require significantly less cropland overall compared to animal agriculture.

The key is to focus on reducing harm where we can. While no diet is completely free from impact, choosing plant-based options typically results in less land use, fewer resources consumed, and less intentional animal suffering.

Regarding plant sentience—while plants have remarkable communication abilities through chemical signals, electrical impulses, and underground fungal networks, they fundamentally lack the biological structures necessary for experiencing suffering: no pain receptors, no nervous system, and no brain to process pain or emotions.

Consider this: 77% of global farmland is used for livestock and their feed crops. If everyone switched to plant-based diets, we'd dramatically reduce total plant and animal deaths, as livestock consumes enough crops to feed billions of people.

The math is unambiguous—plant-based diets require up to 80% less agricultural land, produce five times fewer animal deaths, and cut environmental impact in half. This isn't about claiming perfection; it's about acknowledging the clear scientific evidence that shows which choices cause the least harm to both plants and animals.

is lab grown meat actually available for human consumption yet ?I also dont think the transhumans will mind eating it and new generations wont know the difference the same as they cant drive a manual car etc??

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As far as I know, lab-grown meat is currently available for humans but very limited—only at select restaurants in Singapore and a few high-end spots in the US. Interesting that the UK is actually the first in Europe to approve lab-grown meat, though currently only for pet food, with Meatly's dog treats now hitting store shelves.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/06/nx-s1-5288784/uk-dog-treats-lab-grown-meat-carbon-emissions