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Threema vs SimpleX Comparison

Anonymity

Threema: Users can sign up without providing a phone number, but it’s still possible to link an email address or phone number to the account. This leaves a paper trail, making it less anonymous.

SimpleX: Does not require accounts or user IDs. Users create profiles and databases stored on their devices, ensuring complete anonymity.

Decentralization

Threema: While Threema decentralizes some data, such as contacts and private keys, on user devices, its servers still transmit messages using end-to-end encryption (E2EE).

SimpleX: Decentralized messenger that doesn’t rely on centralized servers for message routing. Messages are routed using temporary anonymous pairwise identifiers.

Cost

Threema: A paid app with a one-time fee (currently $3).

SimpleX: Free and open-source.

Features

Threema: Supports voice and video calling, group chats, polling, and file sharing. Requires a mobile app installation for desktop use.

SimpleX: Supports group chats, voice messages, and sending file attachments. Does not have video calling or desktop app support.

Security

Both Threema and SimpleX prioritize security and use E2EE. However, Threema’s reliance on centralized servers for message transmission raises concerns about potential vulnerabilities.

Conclusion

SimpleX offers stronger anonymity and decentralization, making it a more suitable choice for those seeking maximum privacy. Threema, while still a secure option, has limitations in its anonymity and decentralization. If you prioritize complete anonymity and decentralization, SimpleX might be the better choice. If you’re willing to compromise on anonymity for a more established and feature-rich messaging app, Threema could be a suitable option.

Key differences:

Anonymity: SimpleX offers complete anonymity, while Threema leaves a paper trail.

Decentralization: SimpleX is fully decentralized, while Threema relies on centralized servers.

Cost: SimpleX is free and open-source, while Threema is a paid app.

Features: Threema has more features, including video calling and desktop app support, while SimpleX is more basic.

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############## MONEY ##############

There are no "free" messengers in this world. They all need money for employees, programmers, offices and servers.

Please always look very carefully at where the money comes from and you know who is behind it.

SimpleX Chat received 380,000 dollars from Village Global. This is the venture capital company of Jef Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect.

This means that big tech companies have already long been involved in SimpleX Chat!

See

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/simplex-chat

and

https://www.villageglobal.vc

Also involved Jack Dorsey and Asymetric Capital Partner!

Threema, on the other hand, is only paid by its users and is therefore only obligated to its users!

########### Servers #############

SimpleX Chat don´t know how many servers they have!

Then they also don't know who is behind some servers!

This provides a large attack surface for collecting metadata. The big tech companies only need the IP address and they know which user it is.

How do they do that?

85% of all smartphones use Google's Android and this sends encrypted data packets to Google every day. This means that Google knows the IP address of every user.

Amazon (online shopping monopolist in Western countries) knows the names & addresses of users (if an order was recently placed with the IP)

Microsoft (operating system monopolist worldwide) knows the IP of the home computer and Internet router.

This is the reason why it is insanely dangerous to get involved with money from big tech companies.

They don't put their money into SimpleX because the logo looks so great, but because they want a “foot in the door” and data.

PS: The same goes for Signal, they also run all their traffic through Google, Amazon, Microsoft & Cloudflare.

What does Threema's server do?

It only stores messages until they have been successfully delivered to the recipient and then deletes them again. The message is then overwritten by new messages on the server disk. This means that the deleted message cannot be recovered.

This seems to me to be a much safer way than using a service like SimpleX, where the operators don't even know who is behind their server.

And that "paper trail" with Threema is totally bullsh*t! No Threema User needs to give out any personal information = 100% anoymous!

And the ThreemaApp itself can be purchased with Bitcoin or Cash = 100% anonymous.

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You can run your own simplex server

its FREE and opensource software. Just like Bitcoin.

good luck to you