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i'm being polite because i assume you don't realise i've been involved with Tor since 2006 (look for David Vennik in the tor mailing list archives) and i gave up on Tor because they didn't want to talk about a way to monetise tor node operating, which i perceived as a long term vulnerability that would slow the expansion and thus weaken the security of the network

i haven't been wrong about that either, there has been several cases of breaches of anonymity on Tor, Ross Ulbricht is the most famous one
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vnprc 1y ago

Ty that would be a correct assumption. :)

Agree, monetization of decentralized protocols is key. Without an economic incentive they will forever be niche and vulnerable. I'm working to create an economic incentive for btc block template production.

What do you think about other anonymizing network infra projects? I know bitcoin nodes can operate on clearnet, tor, I2P, and cjdns but I haven't studied them enough to understand the differences. I have heard about something else called nym, but it's run by a company 😒.

There is an alternate timeline somewhere where I dug in and became a btc p2p expert but that's not how the cookie crumbled.

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

haha, yeah, i got back to that timeline for 2023 but funding ran out and my sponsor was no kind of marketing genius, so we didn't find more funding

it's incredible how much work you have to do to simply get people who have capital to invest and a desire to invest it in a specific category of things to learn about it, they are constantly fending off bullshit, i'm sure, it's just like all network protocols...99% spam, 1% signal

as far as i can tell, tor is the most successful because it has the best balance of engineering tradeoffs, similar to how bitcoin is the winner for distributed ledgers

i've thought more about the subject recently, as regards to the way tor uses telescoping (my new term for this is "telescoping ping"), and honestly i didn't even touch the subject of distributing node information across the network, tor uses a centralised directory server for this, which is obviously undesirable, this seems like the right place to put a DHT, but there is all kinds of curly spam problems to navigatet to that destination as well