Wow. This is the only argument in the past 8 or more years where I’ve followed both sides and not thought one side was complete bullshit.

Yes the dumpy man was a shill, but the argument on both sides was solid, and I didn’t know who Meredeth was before this post, but she’s my hero now.

Great discussion, not to be judged. This isn’t the usual US bullshit convo. It’s worth listening to fully.