Is charging interest on loans sinful?
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Is charging interest on loans sinful?
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Probably. It encourages a society where people think in words like "economic growth" and next thing you know the currency is worth half what it used to be because people got more focused on number go up than actual value
What does interest have to do with what you said?
Lenders gravitate towards being bankers
Bankers want number go up
They make borrowers want number go up
Loans get paid back with debased currency at interest rates lower than inflation and people still act like the bank is profiting because number go up
According to Muslims, yes.
On a sound money interest on loans is more damaging than on fiat. The longevity of the scam is also stretched out by fiat. Sound money makes it more risky to lend money to strangers.
Charging compounding interest is evil.
It would be ethical to loan someone money because they need it and you trust them to pay you back. If they don't pay it back you lose.
Sucks to be you. Stop getting scammed.
Give the banks what belongs to the banks. Give God what belongs to God.
Only if you look at the Abrahamic religions.
There's some good reason for it, though it's perhaps important to remember that it is born out of an eschewing of material possessions in the first place. It'd also be sinful to lend out money in such a way that puts your dependents without their needs being met. Presumably, the prohibition on interest is also a way to significantly decrease the extension of credit in the first place, as it becomes completely disincentivized. Financing becomes equity based, rather than based around the collection of interest. The financier takes on the same risks the one they're financing faces in business, rather than standing on the sidelines demanding interest, whether or not the endeavor being financed succeeds.
For a good look at how this functions among communities that actually adhere to it seriously, which isn't even most Muslims especially in the modern fiat world, it's worth checking out how Sharia banking works.
nostr:nprofile1qqsyx708d0a8d2qt3ku75avjz8vshvlx0v3q97ygpnz0tllzqegxrtgkklh5m has discussed the goals of the ban on interest in terms of being a method to encourage a lower time preference. Pegging the time value of money at zero can be seen as a refusal to require that more money than was initially started with be brought into the system. If we zoom out from the microeconomic realities of interest bearing loans, it does make sense that one can't have the widespread charging of interest without necessarily creating a situation in which there will be defaults, either outright, or in the form of inflation. Furthermore, if you're lending money understanding the risk of this default risk, it may brush up against prohibitions on gambling, also found in said religions.
It's hard to argue that money doesn't have a time value though. If I have the money and can spend it today, I can buy seed, to plant crops, which I can then sell, and have more than I started with. Whereas if I lend that money out for a year, I necessarily give up that potential profit stream. However, if nobody is expanding broad money with credit, the money in a year should buy more than it does today, thanks to deflation and the collective increase in real goods and services through productive economic endeavors. Thus, on a sound money standard, that time value is something that can be recognized without the charging of interest. And you might even see the extension of credit without interest as doing your part to drive down the costs of goods and services, and thus, drive up the value of money, so in a way, your time value is being adequately compensated.
With widespread use of interest and fiat money, it's sort of hard to get there. I won't proscribe a course of action as it's far from my place to do so, but this is how I see the matter of interest, and why prohibitions on it do exist in various traditions. One needn't simply go with the "because the book says so" rationale.
It’s been condemned by the Church. https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-did-the-church-fathers-sa-WgJCi0n4RyiMP3Z4AsPAZg