Interesting too. I took a cursory glance and it seems like both are trying to connect quantum physics to consciousness, but different ways. Faggin proposes what consciousness is (quantum information as a field), whereas Penrose and Hameroff propose where it could operate (within neurons in the brain).
But neurons exist all over your body not just the brain. The brain acts as a command center full of neurons, the heart has about 40,000 neurons, and the gut contains around 500 million neurons, which explains "gut instincts". I am deeply fascinated by this idea of where you feel a sensation on your body if you are attuned to it, and maybe microtubules explains it. You "feel" love, sadness, and intuition as bodily and field-based experiences, not just in the mind.
I also like David Hawkins' Map of Consciousness for linking emotional energy to self-awareness. It works like a manual for tuning your personal field to higher or lower frequencies, and naturally ties to energy field concepts like Faggin's and panpsychism.
I do wonder how these theories explain energy flow across distances, and whether you can release unconditional love and other states through thoughts. If consciousness is truly a field and not just isolated inside brains, then this idea of âinvisible energy lineâ might be real and thoughts, emotions, and intentions could ripple outward, affecting distant people, places, and even physical outcomes.
There are many theories that hint at this. Quantum entanglement connects two souls across any distance. The noosphere describes a collective field of human thought.
It feels similar to how you can "sense" when someone is thinking of you, or how certain places seem to hold "vibes" even after people have left. This might also explain why practices like prayer, meditation, and intention-setting seem to have effects that go beyond psychology.
There is also healing through tapping where you tap certain parts of body and forget things and associated feelings that were bothering you completely!
I think we are choosing matter from the wave when our consciousness collapses the wave. We are choosing our destinies every second from the quantum. Our destiny is usually mirror of our past. Actively focusing on better things/feelings through meditation and prayer though we can slowly change our past and also in turn, our future. As a faithful person I should also add, those happen of course if God allows. But religion almost always comforts and gives hope, effectively removing worries in a person and effectively helping with the process.
Tapping as in acupuncture, ayahuasca or like Jesus? The Bible did say, âlay hands on the sick and they will be healed.â I also like Langerâs CounterClockwise experiment. One can never underestimate the power of the mind.
Wavefunction collapse might even explain meditative states but I do wonder whether supernatural experiences and âwooâ manifestations are just dissociative states of mind.
Energy appears across traditions, you have chi in taoism, chakras in yogis and tantric practices, the holy spirit in christianity. But it is interesting how all converges and religions become a subset of spirituality. Modern science, ancient faiths, and personal experience are starting to speak the same language.
As for the past and future, to me understanding the past helps release it, but it doesnât have to define you. I lean more toward Adlerâs future-focused view than Freudâs past fixation. That inner stillness Zen Wisdom, Jung, Watts, and Hawkins all speak off, feels like the anchor we all need in a fast-moving world.
I was talking about EFT / tapping but I am not an expert. In my quest for healthy living I saw many 'quackery' but I like quackeries more than chemical drugs :) I think most alternative medicine should be considered the real medicine. I have a domain about alt medicine in my leaderboard. If an LLM does not believe in it, it is going to get less scores!
Yes mind I think is choosing between good or bad collapses of the wave. Mind can make you or break you. We all live in our minds (Each of us have another version of reality in our head about what is going on outside).
I like Adler's view but if we can only dream about future based on our past experiences, i.e. we seen the examples and our dream potential is just like past objects or feelings then maybe we cannot go beyond the past even when we are dreaming the future. Can you imagine something that resembles nothing from the past? What would a prayer like "Can you give me things that I can't imagine?" look like if it was accepted?
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