Nostr

You don't need ECash to implement a trusted solution, its all theatre like every other shitcoin.

Nothing on the internet is async, lightning won't be either. Shitcoinery doesn't change that.

yes, the internet has to have async

i am working towards phasing out my phone altogether and replacing it with VoIP based phone and SMS messaging, if that's possible, otherwise i get a dumbphone just for SMS and calls but it's gonna be some rugged thing and i'll want to throw it at the wall a few times

i'm not sitting up waiting for people to respond to me, when i'm at the computer, and not working, i'll check my messages, like i am now

the whole purpose and principle of nostr is exactly like email, you have relays (POP) and clients (SMTP)

currently lightning only has a sender, and the receiver must be alive for the message to send, there is no "try again later" option

people can run their own post offices and it's just like having a mailbox in front of your house, or you can have a post office box

these ideas that things must all be live and immediate is a product of conditioning designed to make obedient internet drones and cult mildcontrol slaves

you aren't one of those so yes you want async

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Justin (shocknet) 1y ago

POP and SMTP aren't asynchronous though, if an SMTP server is offline the senders only recourse is reattempts

This is why email servers don't belong on phones and neither do lightning nodes

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

i think that since you are comparing apples to oranges what about instant messaging clients on phones

sure, most of them use servers

but keet.io you only need to be running the client on your desktop and it picks up your messages and your phone can grab them too

for group chats anyway, i don't think they have (nor simplex) made it easy to share identities but with nostr i could do that tomorrow if i could throw together a quick GUI for a nostr chat client, it's beyond easy on the protocol level

i just osted a screenie of my relay's current memory usage, it's less than an average web app

so yeah... actually, things have progressed a long way since it was necessary to have hosting to run peer to peer services

Justin (shocknet) 1y ago

That's still not async, you're running a daemon and it still has signaling servers

Also keet afaik is another clowny DHT scheme that won't scale

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

your argument seems to be that you can't run the internet without professional, educated asshats in data centers

or what

you are just a troll, good bye

Justin (shocknet) 1y ago

Your arguments are that you don't understand how anything actually works 🤷‍♂️

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

i see, you can back that up with some investigation then i presume

Justin (shocknet) 1y ago

Keep telling me about your async phone apps that run a persistent ip4 service 🍿

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

app or clients that connect as peers to a protocol? be precise