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You are probably right.

nostr:npub10000003zmk89narqpczy4ff6rnuht2wu05na7kpnh3mak7z2tqzsv8vwqk consider a persona fork:

1) grandmastr.start.njump.me - email only. Minimal steps

2) fiatjafUIpain.start.njump.me

Current thing

I prefer not to force users to use their email (assuming they have one).

This onboarding is also an educational path, like all things there are tradeoffs.

Maybe it's however possible to offer a simplified version for some specific contexts, I will think about that.

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Different personas or customers have different needs.

For example, I cannot use 80% of nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 nostr tools as they require command line and / or compilation.

Needs and possibilities are different topics.

Nstart doesn't require any specific ability, beside reading. Who can't use it?

And what could be a different "need"? Don't invest 90 seconds to create a lifetime account?

Of course we can think about other approaches. I valuated some of them in a quite long process and this one seems to me the best one, with some tradeoffs of course.

If there will be evident problems, supported by data, I will be more than happy to fix them or review the full flow.

Anyway, the beauty of Nostr is that we don't have to choose a single solution, we can have multiple onboarding platforms that work better for specific segments.

I appreciate what you and fiatjaf build Daniele. I don't mean my question on personas as dig - I aim to understand your thought process at arriving at the start njump solution. It is a few steps in the right direction, and it looks nice.

It would be useful to know, if neutral & anonymized tracking permits, where people drop off in the flow, percentage that use email, percentage that user nsecbunker etc.

It's not easy to explain all the details and the constrains, maybe I will write a long form.

Yes, I'm thinking how to anonymously collect some data about the funneling.

An article would be great!

he.net did a VERY good onboarding for IPv6: https://ipv6.he.net/certification/

A Nostr onboarding could learn a lot from their approach. It is disguised as a "certification". They do provide a "certificate" at the end (customized image), but the point is that the "test" is the lesson.

E.g. first test is "prove you have IPv6 connectivity". For Nostr, it would be "prove you have Nostr connectivity" - by posting a note with a token.

Gamification is an interesting approach, but it would make the flow longer, and I don't know if is the correct approach for an onboarding tool, maybe it's a job for a client.