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Did you get "onward and upward" from somewhere specific? I've heard gnostics say that.

I try to avoid actually practising magic, which is what that mantra is. Slope too slippery, IMO.

Onward and upward is not a gnostic saying. It’s just a saying. Meaning we keep going on with our lives and aim to to achieve our goals.

I stay away from Gnosticism as well.

The first prayer is an Eastern Orthodox prayer.

Magic is a very loose term. From my perspective. Magic can be good or bad.

I would argue the Catholic mass is a magic ritual/ceremony. Reciting prayers, songs, and the culmination is Eucharist becoming the body and blood of Christ. This is a good form of magic.

Bad magic is also present. I can see it very prominent in mainstream media (music, satanic symbolism in brand logos, etc.)

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Comte de Sats Germain 1mo ago 💬 2

You're going to a dark place, if you've been sucked into Eastern Orthodoxy. I'm worried.

Rojo 1mo ago

I try to look objectively at different ways people practice Christianity. I don’t go to an EO church, but I think there’s things that can be learned from that denomination. Same goes for Catholicism and Protestantism.

IMO

Comte de Sats Germain 1mo ago 💬 1

Okay. Same. Sorry, if that came off as rude.

Rojo 1mo ago

All good.