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Let’s not be too harsh…we need lots of idiots with paper bitcoin so government will be ok only confiscating bitcoin held be third parties…if we educate enough people out of honey pots, they’ll try to confiscate self custodied bitcoin.

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lol

first time I've heard this.

6102 is coming for thee, but not for me.

but surely they will continue to let people using sovereign wallets trade p2p without undue obstruction ot taxation...?

I don’t know what you mean. I lost all my bitcoin in a boating accident.

dumb

if you cant move your coins without getting a visit from thugs, you don't control those utxos.

boating accident on a transparent chain is bad advice.

I don’t give advice. But transparent chain isn’t a problem if one can carefully think through how they transact and what info they keep in physical and digital form and where they keep it.

tell me you dont understand dragnet surveillance without telling me...

lol, good one!

Tell me you don’t understand TCP/IP without telling me…

given the vast majority of the population interacts with TCP/IP through regulated 3rd parties,

i'd say you just played yourself.

That word….i don’t think it means what you think it means.

tell me you dont use an ISP to access nostr

I genuinely hope you can see the absurdity of your argument. I’ve been very fortunate to have been in bitcoin since mining blocks solo with my laptop in 2010. If you want your misconceptions directly addressed, I’m happy to dispassionately dispel them. But the meaningless banter timer has expired.

k bro

tell me how TCP/IP shows that boating accidents are plausible on Bitcoin

ill wait.

You seem to be under the misapprehension that bitcoin private keys are some form of identification. Or that sending transactions necessarily identify the user. Are you familiar with dandelion transaction relay? tor? VPN? I used to run my own bitcoin tx relay where anyone within 20 miles of my antenna could send a transaction inside a wireless message to my gotenna and it would get relayed to the bitcoin network via my ISP.

The fact that single individuals COULD get privacy doesn't address my point.

Are you familiar with Chainanalysis? Roman Sterlingov? Samourai and TDev?

Sending txs from a particular address (ie with a particular private key) ABSOLUTELY identify the sender if those utxos are KYCed. Doesn't matter if you use a VPN or Tor or whatever the fuck antenna not to send it.

and since probably 90+% of the network comes in through KYC onramps it means 2 things,

one, those users already need to do *something* to obfuscate their ownership

and

two, people who bought nonKYC are hiding in MUCH smaller anonset than the entire utxo set.

in short,

Bitcoin privacy sucks.

and nothing you've said so far is relevant.

There is nothing identifying about having someone steal your private key.

Telling the IRS "I lost my asset"

is going to get you exactly nowhere IRL.

and excuse me

but its a childish attitude

as if all yall maxis are going to disintermediate the assholes who run the world and they're going to shrug their shoulders and say "oh well they said they lost their Bitcoin in a boating accident" 🙄

You must believe theft can’t occur. More power to ya.

Did you know there was a time in the US where the IRS could demand credit card records directly from the credit card company without a warrant to monitor population compliance with income tax? Congress outlawed this because IRS was weaponized for political purposes.

Remember, the US federal government has not has been given authority to tax income, not possession, and even that expansion of government power required a constitutional amendment. Being stolen from is not a taxable event. Government hasn’t been granted authority from the people to make it so.

it is telling that your argument has been reduced to

"privacy isnt necessary because I trust the legal system to do the right thing"

so now instead of a protocol that protects users from the whims of Authority,

we're trusting Authority 👍

good luck with that.

anyway, you didnt understand what I said about dragnet surveillance and your comment about TCP/IP was a non sequitur.

You better stop making sense!

homie.

VPNs dont protect you from Chainanalysis.

I'm not dating you.

I'm not saying they do.

uh

that guy said they did.

and you said he was making sense.

sorry

maybe people dont usually expect you to be logically consistent.

Uhhh....

He's explaining his thought process. It's not an opinion as so much as it's the realization of truth.

Sorry

People don't expect me to be logically consistent. My headline literally says "ignore me, I'm retarded" you stupid bitch.

Hes making a statement of fact. Its an incorrect fact born from ignorance.

Its neither an opinion nor a "realization of truth".

But clearly you have an invested interest in avoiding any accountability.

I'll let the reader decide who's the stupid bitch.

Bye.

Yeah you're right.

I think there's a lot of truth in this.