I’ve been leaving a bunch of comments about badges, and wanted to tie it all together in one note for anyone who cares. Here are my evolving thoughts:

Obviously there’s been a bunch of hype, and that’s cool, but a bunch of people are still confused and some are even upset. Worry not, badges are harmless and much of the hype is likely to die down fast anyway.

First of all, I’m not a game designer, but I’ve played enough games to know that badges are mostly useless. For a badge to feel special it typically needs to:

1. Be difficult to achieve

2. Be available for anyone to try to achieve it

3. Come from some important central entity

It’s not to say that friend to friend badges are useless or won’t last, but I’d wager the hype on those will be the first to die, and fast.

I think the best use of badges is if it comes from important community entities or people who are central to Nostr’s ability to keep going. For the most part this means clients, and perhaps the founder of the protocol. Some developers can also command that kind of influence. One off events might also be good candidates for badges.

The main issue with nostr badges is that they can be created by anyone - and that makes them less special. Also, the fact that the playing field is not even (anyone can create a badge only for a specific subset of people and not everyone), makes them double ineffective. A sense of mission, struggle and achievement is required for badges to feel special. Again, this is where I think clients will be good candidates to issue them.

All that being said it’s still good fun, though I don’t expect it to last long.

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I agree re the friends to friend badges will die out probably by tomorrow when the new topic is purple cats.

And yes in terms of social clout some badges will hold more weight and I guess those are the ones that will actually matter and people will look for.

All the funny ones on the profile are for ze memes.

One thing I forgot to mention that I think is also critical - is the ability to see which badges are available for acquiring. But since anyone can create one this makes it impossible to know what’s “out there”. Not being able to browse available badges makes it more likely that we’ll lose interest rather fast.

Back to zaps it is ⚡️

Good considerations.

We test, experiment and learn the best practices over time.

Collect all the badges you want. I personally could care less about badges. But by all means, have at it you overzealous Eagle Scouts.

The nostr spirit 🕊️

💜🤙

When account was created, retweeted, zap ⚡️ posts are the best badges 🤙

badges are nothing but vanities. ordinals of nostr.

This is just phase 1: experimenting

Phase future will allow us to cryptographically sign-off on other users work. Think web-of-trust.

I can sign a badge for my babysitter verifying that they are legit. Other parents in my own web of trust can see that on her profile, and use that info in their decision to hire her.

An employer can sign-off that you know how to write python code because they paid you to do so. Other employers can see that certificate/badge from a reputable signing identity.

Complete an education course? Your grade is a badge.

And you can choose to reveal badges at your discretion to whomever you want.

Interesting and creative uses for sure. Let’s see what happens.

On point!

#[2] fren badge the only one that counts

Exactly! Badges will matter in some sort of reputation system.

But what happens to the badge if it is not accepted but awarded?

If someone “earns” bad reputation badge and doesn’t want to accept it is it still visible?

I haven’t read the NIP yet.. I have to admit.

I love that everyone is always skeptical in the Bitcoin world

because I was once too trusting, taught me a lot

Badges are participation trophies

I’d rather receive one satoshi than 25 badges

#bitcoin #nostr

Hey #[0]​ re this note

Aren’t badges basically soulbound tokens that #[1]​ wrote about?

So they’re like here as badges basically- super free and super simple.

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みんな安心して❗️バッジは面白いし、素晴らしいけれど、ただの、ゲームだよ😊

でも、これだから #Nostr 大好き💜⚡️⚡️

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勉強会バッジ!?

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