Have you thought about going whole-hog and doing one of those health-cure retreats? Where you like fast and have mindfullness training and go for walks on the beach and stuff.

I know people who have done them and they always come back looking so calm and healthy.

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maybe some day when i'm more rich lol

just gonna live better every day and it'll work

anyhow, liver and kidneys gonna need maybe 6 months to return to health... this pain in my right kidney definitely needs long term care to sort out, i don't want to go to a hospital and get cut open when i can just have forebearance and lots of water

for me that is preferable to fiat medicine

Hey Fren,

My wife's got kidney issues; if you have found any useful information about natural remediation, I would greatly appreciate any references you could share?🤔🙏🏻😀

Nettle juice 🌿 can be supportive.

TY.🙏🏻😀

i just have had this pain in especially the bottom right one for maybe 4 months, and i was drinking a lot of wine, so i'm doing the basic first steps if it is kidney stone(s) - drink around 2L water a day, some citrus juices (citric acid attacks calcium oxalate and makes it tend to dissolve)

if it's something more serious than stones, then i guess the process might be slower

for sure i'm looking at the coffee situation and thinking probably it would help if i cut back there too, just because it makes me more likely to dehydrate, and that probably contributes to accretion

years ago i had gout, definitely sitting in a chair for too many hours while also being dehydrated plays into this, so, idk, drink less alcohol and coffee, cut back on sugar or cut it out (also starches) try to drink 2L of water every day

i'm not sure if there is any part in this involving boron also... it's not well known or considered to be common but my aunt put me onto the interesting fact that boron deficiency causes the kidneys to eliminate calcium, magnesium and vitamin D

it could well be since a common factor here is calcium, and the composite effect of dehydration AND boron stimulating elimination has meant that my calcium levels have been especially bad... my bones and ligaments heal slowly too, i've got a bit of an inkling that this ding in my knee that is still hurting pretty bad while all the other injuries are almost resolved points towards bone damage as well

the boron thing is 5g/L, 50ml a day, and it additionally helps not just with bone density issues it has benefits on hormones as well, and as you may know these impact calcium and bone metabolism and can lead to pain as well, it isn't harmful to take boron just that usually you already have enough, but if you don't, i strongly suspect there is a whole constellation of problems, especially womens problems and menopause related that can play into this

my auntie said that boron pretty much fixed her menopause problem and i am only sad that i never heard of this when my mother was going through it cos she got it real bad, and osteo porosis, almost had a hip fracture, poor thing... and she also has some kind of ongoing problem with muscle cramps especially in toes and hands that is mostly remedied by diligent hydration

so there is a lot of stuff going on and hydration and electrolytes are definitely at the centre of it all

Thanks for all the details...

I've got to read up on boron...

Reminds me of people supplementing with borax.😃

yeah, medical grade borax... you can buy it at a pharmacy in little handy 1 oz sachets which is perfect for a gallon

20 mule team laundry borax is just fine.😃