I'm guessing by pictures I'm a 3a or b as well? Although if I were to just pluck a hair it looks more like 2?π€·π½

I'm guessing by pictures I'm a 3a or b as well? Although if I were to just pluck a hair it looks more like 2?π€·π½

yes 3a/b def!
you can use that as a start to find the best fitting product. you dont need much creme i see. maybe a change in routine on how you apply + let it dry, more so than the product itself
Ok Cool. Yeah I use uhh ...
Well here's a picture.
The third one... Counting from the left... I've only started using recently now and then. It's mostly for beard but I was like I'll try it on my headπ€·π½
I like how it comes out but eventually a wind will pick up my hair then it's everywhere.
The mousse I put on as like a finisher sometimes. Like when everyone already dry, because I feel like it stops it from frizzing but doesn't get hard like gel ya know? But I like the soft natural kind of look/feel if I can get it.

if you want to work towards no frizz:
you need to avoid using shampoo; only use conditioner to cowash and squish to condish
and find a new product for your hair:
i checked the the utility softner, it has a lot of unproductive chemicals in for your curls (eg. alcohol, perfum) that dry it out causing the frizz. you need something sulfate and alcohol free. also check the mouse on this π
But on the utility softener ok! Thanks for letting me know! I only used it maybe 3 times so far on my head. I'll look into some other options. πππ€π€π€π€