Hereβs what I was talking about btw, it btfoβs lightning p hard. https://github.com/davidshares/Lightning-Network
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funny thing is bitcoin devs are actually right that it's a good idea to offload some amount of transactions onto a second layer. they just don't know how to do it very well as evidenced by this link. ethereum devs have already implemented multiple ways to do this and they all work better than lightning network.
A centralized, premined shitcoin with Vitalik on the top, wow.
what are the eth options?
someone tried to do a second layer with channels like what lightning does. it didn't really get anywhere. then a sidechain was made and it's still really popular but people acknowledge that sidechains are not as secure. now there are optimistic rollups, but they're still not perfect and have some limitations. rollups secured by zero knowledge proofs are better. until just recently nobody had a working zero knowledge rollup that could do smart contracts.
Here are your ETH roll ups
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any links? roll ups and zkp sound interesting
its great people continue to explore new things as blockchains have big problems
it really really irritates me how bitcoin maximalists pretend that everything they have is perfect and everyone else is wrong. there are so many ways to do this and we still don't know the perfect way to do it. if somebody ever tries to sell you a solution and they won't ever discuss any of its flaws, they are trying to deceive you.
perfection is an impossibilty we can only humbly hope to improve things, blind luck might have us stumble on something radically better, the cypherpunks worked a long time to get to bitcoin
i am not a maximalist btw, just someone trying to expand freedom and consciousness
If someone ever tries to sell you a solution and it has another token, it's a scam.
All work better, having its own token.
#Bitcoin has more L2 solutions than LN but scammers will never tell you that.
That's why it keeps growing, lol
Madoff did a p good job of growing his network too.
Sure, comparing a layer built on top of the most decentralized monetary network in the world to a scammer. Great argument indeed.
Bitcoin isnβt decentralised at all. About 40% of nodes are on AWS, Amazon actually controls the network.
Bitcoin is the most decentralized network in the world. You've been lied to.
Give me a link you your 40% claim π
I don't know which 40% claim you're looking for since my client is all kinds of broken, but I do have a 41% claim here

So you are 41% retarded indeed. Good to know.
How many #nostr clients have you tried so far. How many have you developed?
Hey, don't get mad at me. That's not my report.
I tried one called Gossip that required me to download half the entire Rust database of libraries and nearly melted my computer compiling, and it looks like something written in Java in the early 90s.
That and Iris.
Installing gossip took me about 30 seconds. Yes, it looks like something from last century. If your computer struggled with that, get a new one.
Lmaooooo bro is confused with mETH
