How do you securely message?

Simplex?

How do you nkyc?

Mostro?

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Nkyc = Robosats?

Never used simplex. Sorry, mate.

Signal is good. You need a phone number to make an account but you can hide your phone number in the settings and connect to others with a username

Signal is a centralized entity right? I thought I heard signal messages were used in the FTX trial. Meaning signal keeps the data.

It’s and to end encrypted so they can’t see the contents of the messages without physically getting the devices.

Interesting! So if you and I were messaging, then we both deleted a conversation, that conversation is gone correct?

Im not sure. I want to say yes but I think there may be an encrypted log of it on their database so if they got our phones and somehow extracted the keys from it, they may be able to decrypt the logs? But signal does key rotations so over time the keys on your phone change. In theory, the keys on your phone would only be able to decrypt the messages sent with those keys and not older messages sent with older keys.

nokyc with Bisq

message with simplex but its a bit unreliable. Trying out 0xchat

Do you recommend building a computer for Bitcoin stuff? I am thinking of that and having all my sparrow, bisq, node, etc on there.

Like a start9 or umbrel? It’s nice to have all that stuff in one place

I do want to have a start 9 eventually. I'm hitting other goals first though.

I'm saying Build a PC and consolidate all my Bitcoin work on there. I've never built one before so idk how else to phrase it other than "build a PC".

You can build your pc and install start9 on it

There’s the files on their website to build it yourself

https://docs.start9.com/0.3.5.x/diy/

Yes. That's not what I'm saying though. I'm saying Do you personally recommend building a new computer and having all Bitcoin stuff on there.

I have a start9 server. I haven’t built a computer myself for that purpose. If you feel like doing so, go for it. Should be a fun project

A small board running Start9 is technically a PC. PC just means personal computer. Is it worth building an entire mid size ATX tower PC? Probably not. Is it worth building a Start9 which is considerably cheaper and arguably easier to do? Probably.

This 👆🏾

Start OS is cool

id rather my name not appearing in someone else's bank account. if you don't use cash then there's an element of KYC still...

I wish my close ones would allow me to use SimpleX.

NKYC, Bisq.

XMPP and robosats

start talking about Vexl and build your community of local no kyc p2p.... this is the only way forward.