I am suspicious of all “Bitcoiners” who are not on #nostr
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Habits. It’s difficult to build new ones when you’ve been clicking the same link for years.
Yes.
Usually it’s the same people promoting shipcoins
The Twitter network is very strong. The dream is the Bitcoin network is 1 million times as powerful.
I think the biggest hurdle is the lack of folks most follow being here. Or that’s the complaint of some of my friends
Isn’t Parker Lewis still a bit negative on NOSTR?! He gets a pass though, he’s one of the best Bitcoiners out there. I know nostr:npub1guh5grefa7vkay4ps6udxg8lrqxg2kgr3qh9n4gduxut64nfxq0q9y6hjy and nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx were trying to show him the light! I could be wrong, but I think he thought the focus should remain on Bitcoin, not NOSTR, and he wasn’t convinced of the symbiosis between the two…
Spooks gonna spook 🤷♂️ 😉
I'm suspicious when Bitcoiners aren't Christian
I guess most bitcoiners want to verify and not leave things on faith.
Bitcoin has a massive aspect of faith. And there's lots of verification of Christianity. That is the whole new testament and the original use of averting the state through decentralization.
Yeah I've heard something like that before maybe. Jesus was killed by the state and so forth. Wasn't the new testament mainly about jesus? Still, I'm having a hard time understanding how there's anything to verify in christianity.
Fair enough. I felt the same way until I started studying the scripture about four years ago. I think one of the primary things that makes it verifiable is the fact that thousands, or hundreds of thousands witnessed supernatural events. These events were documented (the new treatment). The state continually tried to destroy these accounts. The early Christians tirelessly made copies of them (by hand) and distribute them as quickly as possible. This decentralized of the accounts is what saved them from being destroyed and the story buried. It's absolutely fascinating when you start to contemplate the possibility of their authenticity. The more you dig, the more it becomes evident that it's verifiable.
Verifying is a big word though. Spending a lot of time with a concept and seeing it from more angles than previously is a powerful thing because there is a certain sensation of belonging and rooting yourself to something meaningful. Even more so if there is a community around the idea.
It sounds like you believe in biblical literalism which to me is probably the most bewildering aspect of christianity of them all. As I see it, the new testament describes a man who figures out he is a god in the Hindu sense, that is to say he realises he is god in the role of jesus christ, much like a flower is god in the role of a flower. And this of course doesn't fly in the society in question because monotheism doesn't do well with the idea of multiple deities.
I agree there is a major element of faith in bitcoin like there is in all things. We can't verify everything. The difference to me is that in Bitcoin "faith" can be translated to "optimism" and "trust" whereas "faith" in the christian context is very much tied to fear of punishment and damnation everlasting. Even the concept of heaven is wrong on a deep level because if everything is good in heaven then good becomes meaningless. Good and bad always emerge together and therefor heaven cannot be always good. And therefore it is not heaven at all.
The new testament is written after Christ's coming. It's the accounts of the miracles that were witnessed by thousands. It also shows how Christ fulfills the old treatment prophesies of a coming messiah. I sideways thought the whole thing was total bs. But I've come to realize that it's actually truth and like most truth, empire has done everything possible to conceal it from us.
It maybe truth but it isn't fact. That is precisely what separates christianity and bitcoin on a fundamental level.
Feeling is mutual.
I am suspicious of all "Bitcoiners" who try to shame others into anything.
Keeping up with Bitcoin or nostr is hard enough. Keeping up with Bitcoin and nostr is impossible.
Nostr in not ready for them, they are not ready for Nostr yet.
Who comes to your mind? Do we have names?