Often I find myself confused in conversation, and then it is clarified when I find I am talking to one who believes in an eternal, unchanging universe, about which we can hold some truths, while I myself am thinking not so much of what is changing as to the change itself being the only eternal. Your reference to “the water of reality that we swim in’ makes sense to me as what I call a stable complexity of conversation - that about which our experience allows us to share in understanding. It is all beautiful to me, what I get @walker to mean about ‘Drink the Sunlight’. Those things conversing and that which the conversation is about both change. What emerges from that process cannot be understood by what came before.