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But you can’t exclusively use monero either and the little things you have to use with monero, like gift cards, can easily be used with bitcoin too. So why use monero if bitcoin can do the same thing AND grow your purchasing power? You can swap your bitcoin for gift cards and other things like that too. What’s the primary benefit of using monero? Privacy? Use non kyc lightning.

kyle-moore 4mo ago

I do have bitcoin because of the network effect and consistent store of value. having used lightning (your glossing over all custodial problems with it) and monero both, monero is just 10x easier for private payments. I'm not really a giftcard user. I generally use monero for p2p purchases. I'm not sure how often you use crypto for p2p purchases? I think if you compare your own experience after using both you'll come to similar conclusions.

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MAHDOOD 4mo ago

So you prefer the privacy convenience of monero to the extra privacy steps needed for bitcoin. But the lost gains in purchasing power when holding monero is the real price you pay for “convenience.”

Hanshan 4mo ago

you keep pretending you can do the same things on Bitcoin that you can do on Monero.

of course,

you refuse to show any receipts so...

MAHDOOD 4mo ago

And you keep moving the goal posts. Answer my question. Do you pay for your rent, gas, and groceries with monero?

kyle-moore 4mo ago

I do pay for my phone bill (cloaked wireless) vpn (mullvad) and Ai subscriptions (Pay Per Q) in monero.

kyle-moore 4mo ago

I would say it's not that black and white as npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa is alluding too. I am willing to forgo potential gains to support monero as a project on principle yes. That also comes with the potential of monero out pacing bitcoin in relative percentage gain even if it never exceeds bitcoins marketcap. historically a bad bet but it's primarily a decision of principle.