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Replying to Avatar Mike Dilger ☑️

On deletions...

If you can't be sure whether something is deleted from nostr or not (and you can't), then don't you have to assume it didn't get deleted? And if so... then there isn't much point to trying to make a more effective delete.

We implemented advisory delete AFAIK in just about every relay and client even though we knew it was a bit of a fool's errand (gossip may be one of the few black sheep that didn't actually remove those events - that could change but it would not fix this situation).

We need to be honest and accept what is true. We cannot do any better.

Also, copy-protection is fundamentally impossible. So is time travel.

As for Rabble's view that delete is a social signal... that is fair. I prefer annotations for this purpose (replies marked as annotations that are rendered within the original post in supporting clients)

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ABH3PO 1y ago

Fair, whatever is on the internet, can remain there, even if you deleted your tweet(or whatever its called now), screenshots still exist.

But there should still be an option to delete, if you're lucky, maybe all the relays you used where honoring "delete" and the note wasn't broadcasted to relays that don't, and you should be able to "try your luck".

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