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Sometimes doing the right thing means you're doing it alone.

Focussing on differences is a losing game.

Focussing on our similarities and making light-hearted jokes about our differences worked much better back in the 80's abd 90's.

Then identity politics was injected into our culture.

Kevin Alfred Strom 3mo ago

Nature and simple logic show that this is true: "Peoples which refuse to practice identity politics are peoples who disappear from this Earth." (This has been discussed extensively by the philosopher David Sims.)

If your people has a moral system in which there is anything else -- freedom, wealth, pleasure, adherence to a religious book, anything -- that is placed HIGHER in value than the survival of the group, then there will always eventually come a situation in which a choice must be made between survival of the group or adhering to that allegedly "higher" value. And, if the other thing is chosen, then the practitioner group of that moral system is not going to survive. Groups which always choose survival of the group as their highest value do survive.

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The Pentographer 3mo ago

So if this were actually true about populations then we wouldn't be seeing a collapse of various ethnically homogeneous groups around the planet.

Japan, Poland and South Korea aren't particularly friendly to mass immigration and culturally view imports as permanent outsiders resulting in a high degree of homogeneity among the population.

You're telling me all these countries are seeing collapsing populations, simply because they hold some form of moral system above the survival of their ethnic groups?

Sorry but I think it's more complicated than that and I really don't think you've proven anything other than you're a one-track thinker.

Kevin Alfred Strom 3mo ago

You're making a lot of assumptions about me, but that's okay, my writing isn't always as clear as it should be. I agree that there are many factors involved. But certainly if the value systems and leaders of those societies had group survival as their absolute top priority, they would be doing whatever is necessary to raise their birth rates -- and forbidding the entry of other races. I am not aware that any of the nations you mentioned are expressly doing that, nor exalting group survival as their value above all other values (as they should be doing). So I think the principle stands.

The Pentographer 3mo ago

Perhaps I am assuming and I really shouldn't be doing that. My apologies.

Let me ask then, how do you define "identity politics" in this case? I'm probably operating from a different understanding of that term so let's get on the same page there first. I don't want to make assumptions of your knowledge on this.