Nostr Web Client

Enable me, the user, to follow more people.

A working proof of concept is the implementation of NIP-51 kinds 3000x "sets of lists".

What if NIP-02 was "Lists" and "follow lists" were a specific kind. A kind 30001.

Shift all of the NIP-51 kind 3000x's by +1

30000 becomes "global follow list".

By default, through the interactions via web interface, users should not be simply "following" other users. They should be "following" AND adding them to a specific user-curated list. This allows for "friend groups" and "communities" and "coworkers" and all sorts of unique lists at the user's discretion. "Web of Trust Believers" or "Nostr Developers".

You also don't have to completely rid the Twitterlikes of "Global feeds" either. They are great for a new user who only follows <100 users or so. It's just that it quickly becomes unmanageable. The feed becomes overwhelming. It creates the feeling of FOMO, or if notifications are enabled, spam.

This allows for a layered approach toward user associations. We determine who fits in what feed. That is practical and simple. It doesn't need to do more. It also maintains a global list of associations, which will be relevant for Web of Trust.

This is something that every social media has failed to deliver since Google+ Circles, which was a service no one ever asked for, and most of us were blackmailed with our free cloud services and ushered into. But it did at least one thing right. It allowed users to separate their feeds based on associations between the users they follow.

For a centralized service, the lesson was, THIS WAS BAD FOR CREATING DEMAND, or for demanding attention. It's like shrinking every user's supply line into modular communities that can be quickly reviewed. For a service that was roping its users in against their will and exposing them in many ways, it doesn't generate the doomscrolling infinity that Reddit or TikTok can provide. It doesn't generate as much ad revenue.

But that doesn't mean it wasn't a great idea. It was even a great implementation of that idea, for the time. But it wasn't good enough.

We don't need to poach users from Facebook (like G+) because here we empower each other to grow. If someone replaced Nostr tomorrow, we would all reach down and help the others migrate and build further. We are a community. One planet of people. We benefit from USER growth. Not just user statistics.

Nostr can do so much better.

david 1y ago

You make some very interesting points. G+ failed to addict us with its doomscrolling, so bad at generating ad revenue, but that doesn’t mean what they were doing was without merit.

Question: were G+ lists transitive in any way? I believe that WoT needs to be transitive — not always, but probably transitive by default with the ability to turn transitivity off for WoT to get off the ground.

If I trust 3 people to curate content on wikifreedia, and those 3 people each trust (let’s say on average) 3 more ad infinitum, then by the principle of “6 degrees of separation,” onboarding a new user who benefits from a WoT that spans the entire world is simple, quick, and easy for the user.

If someone 2 hops away from me trusts Alice to curate wikifreedia articles on electronics, and Alice trusts Bob to curate wikifreedia articles on smartphones (a child category under electronics), and so on to progressively more fine-grained categories, then before you know it my wikifreedia extended WoT not only spans the entire world; it will have also selected a small handful of experts for every niche topic in existence, and all I had to do was trust one user to inherit that user’s entire trust network.

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