Replying to Lisander

To be fair, having kids for some is an important part of their loves and how you raise kids, the societies you encourage them to be a part of and the ideas you expose them to are a function of your own exposure and creativity. Most don't know they are being lied to constantly. Some wouldn't care even if they did. But many are questioning things and bringing up kids differently. Look at the increase in home schooling over the past 20 years! And at the extremes, look to the Amish for how distinct a culture can be while co-existing with sheeple culture.

Re overpopulation - I refer you to a lecture by Hans Rosling which elegantly explains what cause the population explosion from 2.5B to 8B and where this might go. TL:DR - pop explosion was a function of global industrialization improving life conditions at a time when people needed 6+ kids to have 2 survive to adulthood and will likely stabilize somewhere around 11b. We can discuss later if we can carry this or not. Here's the lecture if interested: https://youtu.be/2LyzBoHo5EI

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Not my name 2y ago

Just watched the video and yes, I completely agree with the guy.

I think the cat is out of the bag and we are most certainly going to end up with around 11B in the near future.

That level of over-population to me is absolutely next level dystopian and I struggle to even imagine the famines, conflicts, environmental damage, and scale of human suffering that will result.

You have managed to strengthen my resolve to never bring another pointless life into this catastrophe in progress. I didn’t think that was possible. :)

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