Who says Muun or Wos wouldn't migrate to a eCash system to manage user funds, especially in a more adversarial market where governments would put pressure on them to secure user data or request permissioned access to funds

If an email address tied to an LN balance is flagged, can WoS stand up to that request? In eCash they have complete deniablity

Its about the trade-offs I suppose and users get to choose the one they are most comfortable with

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Muun is non-custodial!

1. Muun is not a LN wallet. Is only a dumb onchain wallet doing submarine swaps for the user.

2. Muun servers have control of the xpub. That means will read and monitor all the txs.

Is the worst design for a wallet ever.

I use it only as a bridge back to onchain cold storage

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Breez or Phoenix

Have to agree it totally sucks balls

I like Muun.

Muun needs to be sky clear about its swap fees.

Lol I feel like im alone in using blue wallet :P

Buying btc via strike + muun is the cheapest fee in town

I don't think we have solved Bitcoins scalability problem in a way that everybody can easily use it without depending on a custodial solution.

Not everybody can run a Lightning node, like they are able to remember a 12 word seed for on-chain Bitcoin.

And having eCash mints isn't a solution to that problem in my opinion.