Systems engineer and environmental scientist Donella Meadows on nonmaterial needs:

"People don't need enormous cars; they need admiration and respect. They don't need a constant stream of new clothes; they need to feel that others consider them to be attractive, and they need excitement and variety and beauty. People don't need electronic entertainment; they need something interesting to occupy their minds and emotions. And so forth.

Trying to fill real but nonmaterial needs—for identity, community, self-esteem, challenge, love, joy—with material things is to set up an unquenchable appetite for false solutions to never-satisfied longings. A society that allows itself to admit and articulate its nonmaterial human needs, and to find nonmaterial ways to satisfy them, world require much lower material and energy throughputs and would provide much higher levels of human fulfillment."

Source: The Limits to Growth

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It sounds good but seems to ignore the role of technology in human flourishing. It is because we found material things exciting that we made any progress as a species and are able to contemplate the issues we contemplate today. There’s nothing wrong with satisfying your needs with material things and curiosity in figuring out how things work and where the limits are, as long as your are not entirely consumed by them.

As for energy output, lower levels of energy usage is not something we should strive for as that would mean a slowing of progress.

I view our current state as transitory to something more interesting, purposeful and fulfilling. We need to expand energy use as much as possible to go further or face the possibility of extinction.

Find joy and fulfillment in things and activities that appeal to you. There’s no one correct answer to anything.

By anything I mean the topic of fulfillment.

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