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How so? My point is that both philosophy and faith are reasonable, universal frameworks of meaning. I thought that's what we were talking about.
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Hanshan 10mo ago

my understanding of the conversation is different.

its not necessarily true the Base Reality is the same thing as a "universal framework."

to switch up the terminology a bit,

there is the Eternal

and there is the Manifest.

Having faith in the Eternal doesnt necessarily say anything about how that Eternal appears as the Manifest.

guessing you disagree with that statement.

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hodlbod 10mo ago

I agree they're distinct, but I don't think they're completely disconnected. It's possible to have a framework that doesn't reflect reality, but the purpose of the map is to accurately represent the territory right? If there is no map (or if it's inaccurate), we can't find our way.