Don't blame Twitter for this. Blame the Knots crowd.

They are more than willing to publish blatant lies to scare people into running Knots.

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Anybody can post untrue stuff on there but twitter can influence whether certain things gain tryaction or go nowhere. Regardless of whether they or true or not.

yeah but how much of the knots crowd was created by the ragebait algo, especially since these people don't seem to have any technical understanding of bitcoin

Both twitter and Knots, and Ocean, and podcasts, YouTube, Kratter, Tomer, Dennis Porter, Samson, Jimmy Song - all over nostr too

Pushbytes segregation is not a lie. Increase the OP_RETURN to 520 bytes and there wouldn't be an argument. Is there a project that needs more than 520 bytes?

So now the protocol caters to VC funded projects?

Or blame those pushing a contentious change?

But isn't this true though?

Doesn't Bitcoin Core v30 allow more writing on-chain by lifting the OP_RETURN limit?

1) In a more general terms, isn't the Bitcoin Core 30> direction to make Bitcoin more open to data in general?

2) Or is it false that Bitcoin core 30> wants to move in the direction to reduce or filter Bitcoin data to just be monetary data?

Because it seems that it's clearly 1.

There is no change to consensus; before and after this, the amount of data (however you're defining that) allowed onchain is the same.

I know everybody wants their best for Bitcoin but I do think we have to be careful and think things carefully.

Everything can change consensus, all the time. Consensus is not a static thing, it's an ever changing thing, that depends on every single opinion and points, including yours and mine. Consensus is never static, it's always changing. Everything matters, everything is delicate.

I honestly just see the whole patterns of the old left vs right. "This doesn't change anything", "everything is fine", "it's all good".

Some things are fine others are not. We need to be extremely careful and specific. This is probably the most important tool of humanity. At least from my perspective.

I honestly think the enemy more and more is going to be devs coming from crypto projects with their capital, blockchain/crypto skills and free time, looking at "expand Bitcoin uses" technical crowd.

I would honestly and with kindness say: find something better to spend your time on. Move to AI, plenty of technical stuff to do there. Learn a new skill. Volunteer. Stray cats for example, I'm sure there's stray cats in your area. Bitcoin adoption for example. Rural living, growing food, etc. Learn something outside technical skills. People need to learn more stuff.

This is not a post for you personally, it's for the kind of person I'm describing. Bitcoin needs to be treated very conservately and it's important to open our minds when it comes to what really is useful for the world.

I was talking about *consensus rules*: the set of rules about what is and is not allowed into transactions that are mined. We call that "consensus" because we cannot disagree about it (because Bitcoin can have only one history, to prevent double spending).

Not talking about consensus amongst people generally.

I get what you mean, but what's really happening is that in reality yes we can disagree on it.

I think you know exactly what I mean. We can and a lot of people are disagreeing on it with the power of Bitcoin Node as votes, the Satoshi architecture devised for vetoing/filtering mining consensus.

This is the only tool the plebs culturally have to affect that "consensus".

And the plebs are voicing their opinions saying they want to keep Bitcoin as monetary only as possible.

I fully agree with that sentiment. It's a fundamental position to have. Bitcoin is money and should be treated as money only. There's a community behind Bitcoin, there's an ethos behind it. It's not just technology. It's people with balls and ideals that they're willing to die for. That's what Bitcoin really is. That technical "consensus" is an illusion.

Nodes exist and people are waking up to their power. It was inevitable. Bitcoin is the people and it should always be the people.

You ser are a liar. I see you.

Wow. That 2nd message.

He seems to be saying that it's not a problem if it ends up in a block, but is a problem if it's gossiped. But ... blocks get gossiped ..?

Yup...