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New crowdfunding campaign for a Seastead in the Indian Ocean!

https://geyser.fund/project/floatingcity

Yesterday a new seasteading crowdfunding campaign launched on Geyser.fund showing a video of a barge in the Indian ocean with a bunch of workers on it, building a floating city, called "the only seastead."

Here's the video for those who can't be bothered to click to the campagn page:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkqQYx46Jc

I cannot vouch for this project personally, but I've contributed to it and encourage you all to give whatever you have to spare, to further the cause.

It's obviously run by bitcoiners who use Nostr, so despite what I think about the need for spars underneath a seastead, this looks like one hell of a strong first attempt, if only for the sheer size of this structure alone.

What do you guys think about this attempt? Likes & Dislikes?

Hi, I'm the filmmaker that has been living on board the Seastead. I will be returning early February for a few months as the Seastead moves into a more permanent location in the Saha de Mahla. It is more than 300 miles from any land (200 miles is the exclusive economic zone).

I'm making the documentary to show the Seasteading community that it is far easier than they realised and hopefully inspire many to either join Sam or build their own barge Seasteads.

What conditions must a Seastead fulfil:

- Operate in international waters safely.

- Modular / Ability to grow organically.

- Freedom to move away from the colony.

- Affordable.

A barge fulfils all of these criteria:

- Barges are well tested traversing the worlds oceans.

- There is no limit to the number of barges that can be connected together.

- Modular design means anyone can easily move away.

- A 2nd hand 70m barge costs ~$200,000 (less than the average house price in Europe).

What are your thoughts?

I'm happy to answer any and all questions you may have about this Seastead 🙂

I'm raising money for my documentary to upgrade my gear, get a Netflix approved camera, get under water housing to film underwater and have a small fund if i need to be rescued 300 miles from any land :)

I'm fundraising with geyser: https://geyser.fund/project/floatingcity

And go fund me (where you can watch my trailer): https://www.gofundme.com/manage/the-programmer-building-a-floating-city

Once again, i'm very happy to answer any and all questions.

You support will hopefully encourage many to take the leap and join / start a Seastead.

The time is now!

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Hi Oswald! Thanks for responding here. I've got so many questions about both the barge Seastead and your film. I'll number them for you below to save time, feel free to take your time answering them.

1st of all, I looked at the seasteading.org projects list and the only one they have listed in the Indian ocean is "Freedom Haven," although it is still listed as in port. Is Sam's seastead associated with that? If not, is the seasteading institute aware of his project at all?

Secondly, what are Sam's main goals/hopes/dreams for his project? Is it about floating autonomy, or more of a technical showcase? Is he trying to make new land because he's anti-state, or is this more of a project to house the poor/immigrants/those in need kind of thing?

3rd: Which flag is he going to fly?

4th: What kind of economy does Sam hope for this project? Is there a type of job that Sam feels this environment is best suited for?

5th: What power & freshwater generation capability does the have here now, and what does he have planned for later?

6: About the barge's maintenance, will someone have to actively scrape the rust & life off below the waterline?

7: Does Sam have a plan for inviting/allowing immigrants yet?

8: Does Sam have any defense plans for Pirates or other hostiles?

9: Does Sam have any type of governance structure planned for the community on his seastead?

10: How did you meet Sam & hear about the project?

11: What's your background in seasteading? What do you hope to see it achieve?

12: What event/scenario/goal will you need to cover in order for your docu to be finished?

Thanks again for your work in the space and I will help spread the word over multiple platforms. Cheers!

Hi Luke, I'll try to answer all your questions to the best of my ability.

No Sam’s project is not associated with freedom haven. Yes the Seasteading institute is aware of his project. I have chatted with Joe Quirk about his project. There are others Seasteading project not listed on seasteading.org.

His goal is to create a floating city. His primary goal is to link 20 barges together. These barges will be twice the length and width of his current barge. This will amount to about 11 hectares (27 acres) of land. A large area for a small city state. My goal as a filmmaker is document everything he is doing to provide a clear path for others to follow. For many Seasteading seems like a far off dream, yet with sam’s methods it is much more simple than most realise. Sam is not designing or building anything new, he is relying on what has worked well in the past. Sam is not trying to sell any new fangled Seasteading technology. At sea you must use well tested technology or the surprise will be great! It is about freedom and autonomy. Not a technical showcase. Sam intends to live at sea until he dies. Pragmatism guides the project a desire for freedom and open space.

Liberia. Anything longer than 24 meters in length must be registered as a commercial vessel. The barge is registered as an accommodation vessel in Liberia. Sam always goes for the simplest most pragmatic route. Why spend $5 million on creating a flag? When you can fly an existing one (Liberia) and spend the rest of the money on developing a Seastead?

Anyone that can earn money with an internet connection. That way you can earn your living and sustain your Seastead. Software developing is a good career path. A recurring theme is to do what works! Yes you may be able to earn a living from the sea. But it’s not clear how to in a dependable way. As Seasteading societies grow different industries will emerge. You will be able to provide services to other Seasteaders (gym, spa, casino, school). But initially software is best as you can earn money with just a computer and Starlink. This gives you full autonomy. If you break away from a barge community and your earnings will not be jeopardised. As you can continue to earn money online.

Solar panels. AC produces freshwater as a byproduct. Generator, although Sam is trying to phase out his generator usage. He is looking into different biofuels.

The main maintenance task and a very useful trade for a Seasteader is learning how to weld. This is the most important maintenance task. The hull is divided into 24 separate chambers. So whenever a hole appears it usually fills up one chamber at a time. Making the barge very hard to sink. The chamber is drained with an electric pump, the hole is found and welded closed.

The project is to connect 20 barges together. So anyone that is interesting in buying a barge and joining his project should reach out. The hope is that it will develop into a city. This is the principal aim of my film, to help the first Seastead grow. I hope to inspire others and show them a path they can follow. I have entirely self funded the first filming venture. I’m hoping to upgrade my camera and production value with your generous donations (https://geyser.fund/project/floatingcity). I want to buy a Netflix approved camera, film underwater and have a wider reach for the project. There are lots of other miscellaneous costs that add up when making a documentary.

At sea it is legal to own guns…

I think there will be spontaneous order. Each person is the captain/ king of their own barge. If they like the community they can stay, if not they can separate and go their own way. Governance structures change depending on the scale of a society. Who knows what will develop. I think many experiments will take place with many different structures tried.

Haha. It is a complicated and frankly absurd story. I will perhaps recount it in a podcast, or maybe the documentary. I can’t cover it here it is quite long and involved.

My background is: I read the Seasteading book by Joe Quirk and Patri Friedman. I became obsessed with the concept. In the opening chapter it talks about Ephemerisle, at that time is was living in that area. So I went to Ephemerisle and met many people from the Seasteading world. Ephemerisle is a floating festival set up by TSI. I got increasingly obsessed and wanted to make a documentary to spread these ideas to the world. Hopefully to inspire action. When I came into contact with Sam’s project I was amazed, at its simplicity. Everyone always assumed a Seastead would require great feats of engineering, and many millions of dollars. It seemed so out of reach. Yet Sam’s set up can be replicated anywhere in the world. His setup costs less than the average house in western Europe. It seems everyone was over complicating it. My goal is that i want to show the Seasteading community it’s not as far out of reach as everyone thought. I want to inspire action. I want others to join sam and indeed start barge communities in different parts of the world. This project has the chance to revolutionise Seasteading and inspire many to move to sea. I’m making this film to inspire Seasteader’s the world over to move to the Oceans. The time is now.

So far i have funded everything myself, i’m not being paid by Sam or any organisation. With your donations. I need to upgrade my gear and give you guys better quality, so that the documentary can have more reach. I need to be able to have some funds of how to leave the Barge, given that it will have moved to a spot 300 miles from any land. I do not have an exit plan in place! I’m aiming to raise about $25,000 to cover the total cost of production. It is such an important story, that I am excited for you all to be a part of. I hope to see many of you on the water and am very optimistic for the future of Seasteading. I think this could be the project that triggers an explosion of Seasteads around the world.

Cheers!!! Let me know if you need anything clarified, happy to answer any and all questions. My mail is: maverickmoves (at) protonmail dot com

Sorry the numbers didn't carry over, but everything is in order :)

Wow, great responses! They give me hope that maybe barges will be all that it takes afterall.

I especially love how Sam is set on spending the rest of his life onboard. That's the kind of determination that will make seasteading happen for real. There's no way to know when people can break away from their homes, jobs, and families to come join a seastead so it's important that the welcome mat be rolled out over a long period of time.

I sincerely hope you're right that this one could be the seastead to trigger others all over the world. Now we just need to get the word out.

This looks interesting.

Let me know if you have any questions :)