Someone lost their shit because I only had browser extension sign in on Nym’s initial release lol. I just don’t get the hostility
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I think its a very small vocal minority of very technical users, they will likely stick to amethyst anyways. maybe damus android will be the place to onboard new people who just want a simple, fast app with no fuss. Damus iOS fills a similar role.
It's anyone that's on android and interacts with lots of nostr apps. Not a small minority. Also, amber can be used to interact with desktop applications too. It's a signer for everything and it's the most secure way to hold a key and interact with apps externally.
imagine owning an iPhone as Bitcoiner....
I think he wants to build his own walled garden subconsciously. He wants people to onboard to nostr and only ever use damus. He doesn't want to add a signer that makes it easy for people that use multiple apps because why do that when I only care about using my own app... Kind of like how people onboard to primal. They think nostr is just primal. He wants normies to feel the same way about damus. It's really antithetical to the whole point of nostr...
nah, i’m just attempting to build a new and simpler way to build nostr apps, like how easy it is to build a webpage with a few lines of HTML
Heaven forbid i try to build something different than might help nostr adoption 🙄
Its basically a nostr virtual machine / OS where multi-account, payments and signing is done at the browser level instead of the host OS level.
This will enable you to build nostr apps for this virtual machine/os that works on all platforms, and had api interfaces for everything you might need in a nostr app, enabling creating of new apps in a few lines of code.
I said subconsciously. It sounds cool man but the reluctantance to integrate something most users on android are asking for doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But I'm sure you have your reasons and I won't question them.
I have explained my reasons multiple times. Amber/citrine/pokey are a model where the android OS is the host OS, notedeck is cross-platform, so having these features in the virtual machine makes things more consistent and portable across platforms.
The amount of armchair engineers telling me how to engineer this new system is wild. They think i can’t make it secure either, like somehow rawdogging it into amber will be more secure than a properly engineered signer enclave in the virtual machine separated from the micro apps.
Granted i still need to implement this since we don’t have any untrusted apps, but it won’t be any less secure than amber.
For the record I didn't chime in with armchair engineering. I read your reasoning. That's why I didn't question it. All I did was say it's a shame and it would be nice if you considered adding it because everyone on android wants it. Then I zapped you. My assumptions are just those. Assumptions. And I'm more than willing to be wrong. Fwiw I don't think nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgswaehxw309ahx7um5wghx6mmd9u2mk7fe is just an armchair engineer either. I am more than willing to admit I am. I mean with software. I'm a real engineer in construction. 😂
My dude, there are literally only dozens of us using nostr on android regularly. Why the heck would you not listen to us about what we want? Why do you presume to know better than us?
Come on!
Geez.
Maby really it is good, there is someone to try new ways, no matter what others say. Whoever is suspicious about not having the option of Amber, stays with #coracle and #amethyst
In the end this decision will only be important for Damus-users. Not for those who do not use it.
Time will show us if the decision is great or not.