But even absent government, given the relative wealth of Americans, if we shut the border tomorrow as you people seem to want, there are a bunch of jobs that would *simply go unfilled.*

Who's going to pick strawberries in the hot Watsonville sun for 50 hours a week? Or scrub the toilets of Miami nightclubs every Friday night at 3 AM after closing time?

You think Bubba Joe MAGA is taking those jobs? F to the no.

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I highly doubt able bodied people would sit around and starve if their government assistance disappeared tomorrow

But that's not the point. They aren't going to starve. It's a wealthy country, and proportionally, relative to people in other parts of the world, more of them can mooch off of friends, live off of family savings, etc etc.

The point is that *proportionally", at all income levels, Americans are much wealthier than immigrants from Central or South American countries. And I think most quantitative labor economic studies back me up on this point, that there simply aren't enough Americans willing to work the kind of hardback-breaking jobs that immigrants are doing right now.

I’d say you’re overestimating how many who live on government assistance have some fall back plan lol these people don’t just have wealthy friends/family. Odds are everyone they associate with is doing the same leeching