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Dang, that reminds me of my more youthful mindset. Always had a healthy doubt I'd work to overcome, ad inf. Don't think I'm too set in my ways just yet. Especially lately, got that spark back baby

Daniel Wigton 9mo ago

Note that questioning =/= lack of trust. For instance. I remain Catholic because for every question I ask it and every answer I find it is there before me. Thus I can trust it even while I question it.

But man does the Adam and Eve problem have me confused. I am supposed to believe that at some point we had a pair of first parents that sinned. When was that? Were they the only members of the species at the time? If not what happened to everyone else? Maybe they still exist in an alternate reality, sinless and happy.

Maybe Adam and Eve weren't the only humans but they were the only ones with a rational soul and they screwed it up?

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YODL 9mo ago

Aha, so you do allow for some metaphor in your understanding. Thought you might be from the more strict school for some reason.

Good point, and good question. I'm not religious, as I think you know, but I think about what truth that story might be getting across. Fundamentally disagree that desire for knowledge is flawed.

Daniel Wigton 9mo ago

I don't think the message is that the desire for knowledge is flawed. I think the message is that not trusting God to share knowledge with us is flawed.

He specifically made us to be like himself. But we were all, "we'll figure it out ourselves thanks" but due to the limitations on epistemology we can't (or Kant). So God, knowing that life apart from Him was going to be a literal hell, cut us off from the tree of life, giving us a chance, through death to trust him again. The invitation to Godhood still exists.

YODL 9mo ago

Hmm, not a bad answer. I got nothin'. You win this round Wigton.

Oh and cool that y'all get to believe evolution. Rejecting that has always seemed wild to me.

Daniel Wigton 9mo ago

The Catholic Church is very open to metaphor. I get to believe in evolution and stuff!