I cant even use zapstream to stream. We need more clients of given kinds, not centralization to one

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Absolutely, but we need those clients to be able to easy communicate and interact one to the other and increase the protocol effect

What’s the issue with zapstream?

Last time i tried to configure stream settings it was stuck on something with nostrnests.com/account. Some odd edge case that seems to only affect a few accounts i hope.

You were doing it on nostrnests?

no. zap.stream looks at a prior live activity