Replying to npub1am8lycvljp52vmntfvcqcqxvzsyrjegk9a632m7z2dfwzvd8wazqv7vt9v

Hello #[0], please an official way to get your #Bitcoin wallet Android APK without Play Store?

I need it for a mobile without Google Services and don't want to download it from a random 3rd party website.

Thank you 🤝
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7a56f8bd... 2y ago

-Wallet of Satoshi is a custodial wallet (closed source)

-Muun wallet requires google play services to function

Alternatives:

- electrum.org (apk available on their website - https://electrum.org/#download

- acinq.co (apk available on their github repo https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenix/releases)

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npub1am8lycvljp52vmntfvcqcqxvzsyrjegk9a632m7z2dfwzvd8wazqv7vt9v 2y ago

I don't care if it's custodial... I really want to use WoS...

Phoenix is good but very expensive LN to L1

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7a56f8bd... 2y ago

Phoenix doesn't take a cut if you send from LN to a bitcoin address, the fees depends on the bitcoin mempool usage and their current UTXO rate. All fees go to the miners.

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npub1am8lycvljp52vmntfvcqcqxvzsyrjegk9a632m7z2dfwzvd8wazqv7vt9v 2y ago

That's amazing, didn't know... So the only fee is opening a channel

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7a56f8bd... 2y ago

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npub1am8lycvljp52vmntfvcqcqxvzsyrjegk9a632m7z2dfwzvd8wazqv7vt9v 2y ago

In that case using Phoenix efficiently is sending at least 300k sats, opening a channel and use it for swap out....

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npub1am8lycvljp52vmntfvcqcqxvzsyrjegk9a632m7z2dfwzvd8wazqv7vt9v 2y ago

Is this ok? I want to minimize the fees and cost because I didn't have much capacity of buying...