Everyone always claims self-defense. It's an irrelevant argument.

You always start off making just enough for your own situation, but economies of scale make it easy to run up production, and then you start specializing and exporting. And exporting the arms helps you finance your war, so it's a vicious cycle, and you just keep doubling-down.

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You literally just said self-defense is an irrelevant argument

How do you sleep at night?

Are you claiming that it is relevant? It's a completely subjective argument based largely upon feels and sliding time scales.

The Other Side ™️ is always the aggressor and the arguments usually go back hundreds or even thousands of years.

I am claiming Palestine was the aggressor and Israel is defending itself. You would claim the opposite. We are both right. We are also both wrong.

That is why wars are stupid and generally to be avoided.

i wish i never commented on that stupid shit this morning