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Yeah, I get that, but if they're thinking with a fiat mind, wouldn't they also be making short term choices? Maybe that's a big assumption, but that kind of mentality makes me think that the rest of network would switch to the proper chain and suction out the value of the person's large sums of money. I still think most bitcoiners (and hopefully any normies) would point their nodes in the right direction.

HoloKat 10mo ago

The nodes don’t matter. It’s a nerd obsession that totally missed the human aspect of all of this. I believe people will support whichever chain that doesn’t leave them impoverished. Sadly, the other guy has an unlimited money printer, 0% interest loans and blackrock. The bitcoiner had bitcoin on his side but in a fork scenario where the state wages all out war on your chain and has the legislative power and the population’s money tied in ETFs, the people will take the safe path of least resistance and that will be the state coin. The node counts won’t mean shit. Miners are also state approved entities. We are long past being able to do anything about that.

Bitcoin will continue no doubt, but in what capacity - I’m not sure. Which chain will end up bitcoin classic? That’s the big question mark. Right now I’m not feeling optimistic about what I think will be the answer to that question but sure hope it’s the not the current chain.

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MA₿ 10mo ago

What I'm saying is that this is a world wide thing. America would not just be considering another block war with bitcoiners in their country, but the entire world. They would need to convince not only their citizens of switching to their chain, but a hefty majority of the world to be relevant. The nodes do matter in this case. Plus... who's going to mine a state chain when we've got a world currency that isn't having it's code changed?

HoloKat 10mo ago

If you ask me it’s very easy to convince a few other allies. Maybe even advantageous if your enemies are bitcoining too.

MA₿ 10mo ago

Hmmm, I just don't think so. The game theory playing out makes me think that America trying to fork would be disastrous for us as a country. Think of normal users getting rekt on shitcoins... now imagine that on a nation-state level.

HoloKat 10mo ago

I mean we’re adding shitcoins to reserves… it’ll be disastrous sooner or later.

MA₿ 10mo ago

Yeah, I believe they’re going to lose tremendously with this. They may have heavy bags, but heavy bags are hard to move.